DCEU is really fukking up. Darkseid and Orion came before Vader and Luke. Thanos is just a character Jack kirby created because he couldn't legally bring his New Gods/ Fourth World saga with him to marvel. It's just sad.
It's absolutely Insane how Darkseid predates Darth Vader and Thanos but he is seen as great value version of them.
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Devilinurear
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MenacingMonk
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Kirby didn’t create Thanos. Jim Starlin created Thanos. Kirby created Eternals for Marvel.
Darkseid has always got his props with comic book heads. He just wasn’t pushed enough on a mainstream level to get recognized heavy.
Darkseid has always got his props with comic book heads. He just wasn’t pushed enough on a mainstream level to get recognized heavy.
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The King Jack Kirby. Man was so brilliant he carried Stan Lee for decades and never really got the credit.
Well, Thanos and Darth Vader have both been in (good) movies. Plus Darkseid is a bit of a shallow character, he's just evil to be evil.
That said, Thanos I get, but I don't really understand the comparison with Vader. They're not much alike besides both being villains.
That said, Thanos I get, but I don't really understand the comparison with Vader. They're not much alike besides both being villains.
Only if the DCEU wasn’t such a shyt show. The homie Darkseid would’ve had some mainstream relevance. Darkseid is a way scarier villain than Thanos.
feelosofer
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Darkseid is an amazing comic book character but maybe outside Superman TAS. They never really fleshed out how powerful he really is.
I don't really think it's about how powerful he is, it's that he lacks any depth (at least in any comics or shows I've seen).
Vader has the whole fallen Jedi thing going on, not to mention his relationships with Luke and Obi-Wan. Thanos thinks he's saving the universe (MCU) or is in love with the personification of death (comics) and at least cares about certain characters like Gamora.
Darkseid? Has no real depth to his character. He's just evil because he's a god of evil and that's what he does. I'm not saying that makes him a bad villain but it does make him shallow compared to most others.
feelosofer
#ninergang
That's fair.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Snyder had Darkseid plans and some toxic fans fanned the flames of division which led to dumb executives wanting to change course.
It's always either toxic fans or idiotic corporate executives that destroy everything, just look at the current state of the MCU
It's always either toxic fans or idiotic corporate executives that destroy everything, just look at the current state of the MCU
Devilinurear
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Those DC movies after Flashpoint show how powerful he is.