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All of my warnings and low quality points come from talking about the vaccine. Doesnt even matter if you tell a lie,if you ask a question that has pro vaxers confounded ,or actually makes sense you can get jammed up:mjcry:


Clear case of mass psychosis. I dont expect the participants to know they have been infected by it. Its happening on both sides btw,but pro vaccine people,especially on this site are acting reeeeeaaal outta character:mjlol:. Antivaxxers are people who were always skeptical of the govt. But pro vaxxers werent always so pro govt,trusting of medicine and doctors,and sounding like sheep of totalinarianist. Sad to see what has happened to alot of you. If it dont apply let it fly.
Both sides done said crazy stuff, the difference is provax got the support.

you find out who real when you not tryna score Covid points and all the facts are on the table. These dudes just wanna be on the presumed winning side.

some poster called hisself checking me, little did he know I check and read all receipts., so his argument quickly fell apart.

all of a sudden I stop getting notifications from him but when I go back to the thread he still quoting me:jbhmm:… but I didn’t get the notif. Straight slick shyt.

from that point I realized some of these dudes need these internet points.
 

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The k00ni.com with another one:snoop:

This is the coli so I know it might be hard to grasp, but this ruling is called Jacobson vs Massachusetts.
Massachusetts is a state.
State and federal governments are different.
The Federal government has limited power over the states.
There being a precedent for state governments having the authority to create laws mandating vaccines if they deem it necessary to do so actually strengthens the case that this is federal overreach.
Each state government has the authority to individually determine whether or not to have these vaccine mandates, which is what they've already been doing.
The Biden admin knows they don't have a leg to stand on here but they can have some effect before it is inevitably struck down by the courts (just like he knew the CDC eviction moratorium would be struck down). The lack of political understanding on this board is outrageous.

























This man said "that is all" like he really did something :mjlol:

The federal government has control over interstate commerce and travel. So businesses like Walmart who use interstate travel fall under the federal government’s mandates of public safety and overrule the states.

The states can enforce stricter guidelines(ala California higher emission standards) but can’t go under the federal limit.

The GOP’s favorite Reagan already tested this when he raised the drinking age across the country to 21 cause the federal government regulates the highways and businesses that use them for goods. That’s why you’ve never seen a state lower the drinking age below 21 despite alcohol being a personal “freedom”.

This issue has been settled. Biden didn’t overstep.


Y’all falling for GOP ramblings and fundraiser talking points.

Huh? This mandate is for all employees of private businesses with greater than 100 employees--in every state and regardless of whether they are connected to the federal government or whether interstate travel is involved.

Public safety doesn’t stop at state or city borders.

An unvaccinated distribution driver for Walmart, Target, or a local flower chain will cross from Mississippi(high Covid) to Georgia( lower numbers) and spread the virus. Or within the same city or state.


A drunk driver in Louisiana can cross to Mississippi, Alabama, or Tennessee and kill someone if states had varying legal drinking ages.


Federal law over rides states for public safety. That was the point of the Jacobson vs Mass case you missed. That case is what Reagan used to up the drinking age and now Biden.



That’s why he mandated it through businesses and not just mandating as a dictator telling his citizens they have to.

So damn Confidently wrong :mjlol:


You got hung up on the state part instead of the interpretation of the law.

Then again, I don't have a JD and you obviously don't either.


So after it was all said and done was I (Eclipser) right or was the Coli remedial amateur legal team right? :jbhmm:

Well...



:unimpressed:

Let's take a look at what the judges who enjoined enforcement of the mandate had to say regarding states rights and Jacobson v. Mass:

It lastly bears noting that the Mandate raises serious constitutional concerns that either make it more likely that the petitioners will succeed on the merits, or at least counsel against adopting OSHA’s broad reading of § 655(c) as a matter of statutory interpretation. First, the Mandate likely exceeds the federal government’s authority under the Commerce Clause because it regulates noneconomic inactivity that falls squarely within the States’ police power. A person’s choice to remain unvaccinated and forgo regular testing is noneconomic inactivity. Cf. NFIB v. Sebelius, 567 U.S. 519, 522 (2012) (Roberts, C.J., concurring); see also id. at 652–53 (Scalia, J., dissenting). And to mandate that a person receive a vaccine or undergo testing falls squarely within the States’ police power. Zucht v. King, 260 U.S. 174, 176 (1922) (noting that precedent had long “settled that it is within the police power of a state to provide for compulsory vaccination”); Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 25–26 (1905) (similar). The Mandate, however, commandeers U.S. employers to compel millions of employees to receive a COVID-19 vaccine or bear the burden of weekly testing. 86 Fed. Reg. 61,402, 61,407, 61,437, 61,552. The Commerce Clause power may be expansive, but it does not grant Congress the power to regulate noneconomic inactivity traditionally within the States’ police power. See Sebelius, 567 U.S. at 554 (Roberts, C.J., concurring) (“People, for reasons of their own, often fail to do things that would be good for them or good for society. Those failures—joined with the similar failures of others—can readily have a substantial effect on interstate commerce. Under the Government’s logic, that authorizes Congress to use its commerce power to compel citizens to act as the Government would have them act.”); see also Bond v. United States, 572 U.S. 844, 854 (2014) (“The States have broad authority to enact legislation for the public good—what we have often called a ‘police power.’ . . . The Federal Government, by contrast, has no such authority. . . .” (citations omitted)). Indeed, the courts “always have rejected readings of the Commerce Clause . . . that would permit Congress to exercise a police power.” United States v. Lopez, 514 U.S. 549, 584 (1995) (Thomas, J., concurring). In sum, the Mandate would far exceed current constitutional authority.

These judges copied my whole fukking flow! Word for word! Bar for bar!



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Detroit You bytch Ass nikka
So after it was all said and done was I (Eclipser) right or was the Coli remedial amateur legal team right? :jbhmm:

Well...



:unimpressed:

Let's take a look at what the judges who enjoined enforcement of the mandate had to say regarding states rights and Jacobson v. Mass:



These judges copied my whole fukking flow! Word for word! Bar for bar!



:unimpressed:

You do realize Covid is down EVERYWHERE except Trump areas right?

So are you just gonna be a idiot and a t like this is a good thing? Dumbass nikka, fukk outta here wit this bullshyt. Without it, we would be headed to another multi thousand death winter dumbass nikka.

fukk on :camby:
 

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No matter how hard you try, this is not a freedom issue. It is a public health issue.

Do you even understand what a public health issue is?

if it was really a public health issue you would've seen a more serious and immediate response from those in govt. instead bars were allowed to stay open "until 9 pm" and other stupid shyt like that. lies and playing with the numbers, etc.

but the american public has indeed shown itself to be so fukkin dumb it's no surprise they're able to pull this kinda shyt off.
 

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You do realize Covid is down EVERYWHERE except Trump areas right?

So are you just gonna be a idiot and a t like this is a good thing? Dumbass nikka, fukk outta here wit this bullshyt. Without it, we would be headed to another multi thousand death winter dumbass nikka.

fukk on :camby:
:francis: You gotta do all that just because bruh posted something you don’t agree with?
 

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All of my warnings and low quality points come from talking about the vaccine. Doesnt even matter if you tell a lie,if you ask a question that has pro vaxers confounded ,or actually makes sense you can get jammed up:mjcry:


Clear case of mass psychosis. I dont expect the participants to know they have been infected by it. Its happening on both sides btw,but pro vaccine people,especially on this site are acting reeeeeaaal outta character:mjlol:. Antivaxxers are people who were always skeptical of the govt. But pro vaxxers werent always so pro govt,trusting of medicine and doctors,and sounding like sheep of totalinarianist. Sad to see what has happened to alot of you. If it dont apply let it fly.
For real. Some of these posts from pro vaxx gang on this site just seem so forced, like they’re being paid to shill the vaccine it’s crazy
 

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So after it was all said and done was I (Eclipser) right or was the Coli remedial amateur legal team right? :jbhmm:

Well...



:unimpressed:

Let's take a look at what the judges who enjoined enforcement of the mandate had to say regarding states rights and Jacobson v. Mass:



These judges copied my whole fukking flow! Word for word! Bar for bar!



:unimpressed:

It’s temporary halt to be decided not a final decision. The Fifth Court is a notorious right wing court.
:mjlol:
Conservatives run to that court for rubber stamping like Liberals do in California.


Quote Glen Greenwald to boot:russ:
 

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It's not something I disagree with, it's something that's dangerous to dumbass people who disagree with it. Unfortunately, I care about people I don't know:yeshrug:

If that vaccine protects you what are you worried about? Just be secure that "you're safe"
 

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If that vaccine protects you what are you worried about? Just be secure that "you're safe"
nikka.......... I LITERALLY JUST TOLD YOU "UNFORTUNATELY, I CARE ABOUT PEOPLE I DONT KNOW" :gucci:



Meaning, it's not something I can just wake up tomorrow and feel differently about :martin:


Bro, whit people are breeding their people to not give a single fukk about anybody else. Greed, fascism, and disinformation is bring pushed as American morals and being ate up by a large amount of white folks and a few dumbass nikkas and Latinos that lack the ability to understand simple shyt like science.

I'm the type of nikka who can't avoid inserting myself into situations like this, and I'd embarrass the next man for it. I don't give a fukk, I'm completely fine with violence based on shyt like this.

I'm a different breed of nikka my dawg :yeshrug:
 
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