OfTheCross
Veteran
Right?
It's common knowledge that numbers in the NBA are inflated like NFL passing numbers
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Lakerman0834
Veteran
I mean on the Coli we all know we are playing in the stat padding era thanks to analytic nerds
holidayinn21
:SmugMoneyMike:
It's pretty obvious. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.
It's easier to score than it is to play defense in this era. Between all the 3s being taken, all the fouls being called, and the rampant traveling where u can take 5 steps after u pick up ur dribble it's easier than ever to get buckets. Theres also no real centers in today's league so the paint is not protected like it used to be.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
It doesn’t work that way OP. The passing numbers in football are stemming from the rule changes that penalize defenders for more contact which is the core essence of the sport. The nfl fundamentally altered the league by trying to legislate contact out of the game. It’s changed in basketball since teams have learned the value of floor spacing, shooting more 3’s as opposed to mid range jumpers, pushing the pace, have developed more advanced schemes on offense, and have simply become better shooters. Not the same thing at all. One is being artificially manipulated to try protecting themselves from concussion lawsuits and to cater to the fantasy football crowd, while the other is just the evolution of the game.
All I know is, I'm tired of the "pick n roll and switch to get a weaker defender on you" bullshyt.
Some players abuse that play, which makes shyt boring after a while
Some players abuse that play, which makes shyt boring after a while
Which is why so many people getting triple doubles these days.
Greg monroe had a triple double brehs
He cant even see the floor in the playoffs.but let espn tell it. Tripple doubles make you a hall of famer.
They mean absolutley nothing anymore
Greg monroe had a triple double brehs
He cant even see the floor in the playoffs.but let espn tell it. Tripple doubles make you a hall of famer.
They mean absolutley nothing anymore
You can adjust stats for pace, but you can’t adjust for personnel
Teams don’t play useless oafs like they used to and this definitely impacts stats
PortCityProphet
Follow me to the truth
It's still iso ball like the 90s-00s just a different way of getting into it.
Switch get mismatch and go to work.
Game ain't changed despite what folks wanna claim.
Time of possession is up Phoenix Suns led by Steve Nash 7 seconds or less offense would rank last in today’s NBA. I heard them talk about this on the Lowe Post and Dunc’d on basketball podcast. Everything faster nowadays. It’s about getting as much shots as possible that’s why you see a lot of teams instead running out the clock. They go for 2 for 1s. Pace and space all the good teams stretch the floor. The days of the slow bigs backing down are over
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
This might be the biggest thing that people don’t notice. You don’t see Kendrick Perkins or Joel Anthony types in the starting lineups on championship teams anymore. In today’s league everyone on the floor needs to stretch the defense or be a threat to score. Boston was 5 points away from the title in 2010 and spent their draft picks on Semih Erden and Luke Harangody solely because they were tall. Imagine seeing that today. Just 8 years ago that sort of thing was a regular occurrence. Everyone on the floor needs to be able to impact both ends of the floor and teams can’t afford to run lineups that have bad floor spacing. Just 9 years ago the lakers and cavaliers won 65 and 66 games with 1-2 capable shooters in each of their starting lineups. Imagine if a team tried that in the current nba.
@Skyfall posted this article from April of 2001.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-04-01/sports/0104010375_1_defense-recommendations-nba
The rules in the league can sometimes steer teams into playing a certain way.
"The elimination of illegal-defense guidelines, which have been a staple of NBA play for the last 50 years, may rank as one of the major changes in the history of the pro game. It is a daring experiment that proponents say will return classic basketball--cutting, passing and better shooting."
"The NBA historically has been a man-to-man-defense league that encouraged great individual play.
But as coaches, like Hubie Brown in the 1970s, began to devise defenses to help out, the NBA instituted a series of defense rules that began to look like the Internal Revenue Service code. There was good reason for each of them, but when combined they made little sense. So games often are spent with players pointing to lines on the court where a player is supposed to be or isn't. Actually, many of the illegal-defense rules were designed to aid the centers, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who were being smothered in the post area. But the result has become a slower, unappealing setup game in which the ball is dropped into the post while the post player works with another player and three players stand around and watch."
The change is not just a present for players like Steve Kerr, Bryce Drew and Trajan Langdon, who are primarily perimeter shooters. It's more of a statement to all players that they should learn the fundamentals of the game--to shoot the ball, pass and move without the ball. One early victim would seem to be Shaquille O'Neal, perhaps the only true low-post center left in the NBA. Elimination of illegal-defense rules would allow teams to gang up on him and force the ball outside, a sort of Shaq Rules. But coaches such as Miami's Pat Riley, who long has relied on a two-man post-up game, say times are changing.
"I think the philosophy now is about versatility, quickness, mobility, stretching the game," Riley said. "The philosophy has transcended getting a big man.
"This is the game of the 21st Century."
The above comments/predictions of that article explains teams like the Golden State Warriors almost perfectly.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-04-01/sports/0104010375_1_defense-recommendations-nba
The rules in the league can sometimes steer teams into playing a certain way.
"The elimination of illegal-defense guidelines, which have been a staple of NBA play for the last 50 years, may rank as one of the major changes in the history of the pro game. It is a daring experiment that proponents say will return classic basketball--cutting, passing and better shooting."
"The NBA historically has been a man-to-man-defense league that encouraged great individual play.
But as coaches, like Hubie Brown in the 1970s, began to devise defenses to help out, the NBA instituted a series of defense rules that began to look like the Internal Revenue Service code. There was good reason for each of them, but when combined they made little sense. So games often are spent with players pointing to lines on the court where a player is supposed to be or isn't. Actually, many of the illegal-defense rules were designed to aid the centers, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who were being smothered in the post area. But the result has become a slower, unappealing setup game in which the ball is dropped into the post while the post player works with another player and three players stand around and watch."
The change is not just a present for players like Steve Kerr, Bryce Drew and Trajan Langdon, who are primarily perimeter shooters. It's more of a statement to all players that they should learn the fundamentals of the game--to shoot the ball, pass and move without the ball. One early victim would seem to be Shaquille O'Neal, perhaps the only true low-post center left in the NBA. Elimination of illegal-defense rules would allow teams to gang up on him and force the ball outside, a sort of Shaq Rules. But coaches such as Miami's Pat Riley, who long has relied on a two-man post-up game, say times are changing.
"I think the philosophy now is about versatility, quickness, mobility, stretching the game," Riley said. "The philosophy has transcended getting a big man.
"This is the game of the 21st Century."
The above comments/predictions of that article explains teams like the Golden State Warriors almost perfectly.