It's crazy Eminem made an album with Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Havoc, Dre and Boi-1da and it still turned out trash

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Mfs were hyped that Em was working with some big name producers and out of his comfort zone. Then that man dropped some emo stadium rap for straight edge whiteboys addicted to Monster Energy drinks and Call of Duty

Just Blaze's beats on this shyt were

Says A LOT about his ear for beats. All those years they clowned Nas but this dude was right there fukking up with all A+ producers lined up.


Royce gave some insight into his recording process... How Eminem likes to preview his songs in an old Ford truck with garbage speakers and that have no lows (bass)

That should tell you enough about why. Don't forget him having Alchemist.as a DJ and picking the worst ALC beats

 

[Ashtrey]

Minus the lead single I liked Relapse. Cohesive project (maybe Dre's last good produced project?) despite the accent on some tracks. Recovery was too cac'd out for me. I haven't listened to it since its release.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Recover sold 8 million. How does a lyrical rapper sell 8 million after his prime with hit singles all over the radio and be in the 'fell off' category?

"I don't like rap but I like Eminem" that's how. We know this statement. Uttered by countless cacs. Eminem is a genre to cacs. The new generation shows accurately rated Em for the first time since he blew up and finally started adjusting his placing on lists. No longer gets the default number one slot for a reason.

People like you are talking about sales when he makes bad music. You not a rap fan just an Eminem stan. Yes he fell off as an artist. Not as a product. People like you would buy a blank Eminem disc and rave about the sales. Y'all act like you bought shares in him, like he is a stock and you invested. Absurd.

 

[ManBearPig]

Recovery is one of the worst produced rap albums ever by a superstar

They werent that bad now. You're saying the beats on Magna Carta Holy Grail were better?

 

[Woodrow]

He makes music for marine recruits.

 

[Big Boss]

@SunZoo

 

[SunZoo]

@SunZoo

I didn't even see this alert but what up big dawg lol

But yea I hated Recovery because it was a bad omen, not because I didn't enjoy it.

The response to him trying to drop a horrorcore album in the mainstream made him and his team pivot all the way into shyt that was very anti-Eminem to actual Eminem fans. Ditching the previous "Formula" to replace it with pop ballads, stadium type music and these playschool punchlines that he made a conscious decision to do more of after seeing Wayne get props for it.

I actually like these songs a lot:
On Fire
Going through changes (was listening to this a lot when my mom passed)
Seduction (should have been a single, super dope)
So bad (also should have been a single)
Cold Wind blows
Almost famous

But I also knew it was going to sell better than Relapse and thus validate every wrong-headed idea they had about what path to take creatively and sure enough I didn't feel like I got anything resembling what I felt with Relapse til TDOSS. That's a long detour into the kind of tone Recovery set which you could see coming a mile away.

 

[B...]

He’s 2/2 in the 2020’s

 

[KFBF]

All these young rappers putting Em in their top ten when his music has been trash for as long as they've been alive. You shouldn't beleive what rappers say. They're driving around listening to this garbage:



fukk outta here.

 

[bigde09]

Recovery is one of his worst albums

Listen to that chorus

 

[SunZoo]

All these young rappers putting Em in their top ten when his music has been trash for as long as they've been alive. You shouldn't beleive what rappers say. They're driving around listening to this garbage:



fukk outta here.

I love that song but it wasn't made for driving around? A big part of the appeal of Em's music is the vulnerability and intimacy, not whip tests. That didn't hit me like a music connoisseur or a tastemaker but as a father with daughters who could be bringing me a grandchild within the next couple years or so.

As for the bold and the conversation about age. I saw a young black kid on tiktok say that Not Afraid (a song I don't like) is the song that made him an Eminem fan. For all it's flaws, Recovery is actually the album a lot of the younger fans of Eminem made that same emotional connection with that his core fans did with his early work.

 

[Plankton]

“Stick my dikk in a circle but I’m not fukkin around”


Recovery is full of wack punchlines just like this

The problem with this board and it's known bias for Em is that other veteran emcees never have their bars dissected like Em. At least Em is known for comedy. So a bar like what you just dissected makes sense
Now I'm not gonna even say who but a veteran emcee just dropped a very hyped album and some of those punches weren't hitting yet dudes were like "oh he still got it lyrically." So when I see this comment the bias stands out because if I went into that hyped veteran albums thread and dissected a bar that wasn't favorable i'd get mobbed and pounced on. I'd be looked at like a troll and a hater. So the hypocrisy stands out. With that said Em's lyrical execution on that song you quoted is top tier and and an example of how he is one if the greatest lyricists in Hip hop history.

 

[JulesMusic719]

He’s surrounded by tone deaf yes men, this is what he made with Alicia Keys & Just Blaze Like who approved this unlistenable trash?

Man just blaze fell off since Jay Z been clowning him for wasting all his money on video games lol

 

[KFBF]

I love that song but it wasn't made for driving around? A big part of the appeal of Em's music is the vulnerability and intimacy, not whip tests. That didn't hit me like a music connoisseur or a tastemaker but as a father with daughters who could be bringing me a grandchild within the next couple years or so.

As for the bold and the conversation about age. I saw a young black kid on tiktok say that Not Afraid (a song I don't like) is the song that made him an Eminem fan. For all it's flaws, Recovery is actually the album a lot of the younger fans of Eminem made that same emotional connection with that his core fans did with his early work.

You know what? That's a perfectly reasonable argument. I'll see myself out.

 

[Street Knowledge]

They werent that bad now. You're saying the beats on Magna Carta Holy Grail were better?

Holy grail is the blueprint compared to recovery