It's on....The China Trade War Thread {7/24 White House readies $12 billion in aide to farmers}

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What say ya'll? How long will this "war" last? who will cave? What are the impacts?

China clapped back shortly after midnight. Casualties will be heaviest in red states. Trump plans to bail out his base by buying aggro products and destroying them as a means to bail out farmers impacted by the trade war.


Trump, who has attacked Harley-Davidson for plans to move some production to its overseas plants to avoid retaliatory European tariffs, is looking to save “my farmers” from the trade war he launched. Rural support was critical to his presidential victory. Unhappy farmers could spell trouble for midterm elections.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said last month at a Chicago convention that the Commodity Credit Corporation is a “tool” he’s considering to comply with Trump’s instructions to “craft a strategy to support our farmers against retaliatory tariffs. The program, which was started to help farmers during the Great Depression, allows the Agriculture Department to borrow as much as $30 billion from the U.S. Treasury that could be used to buy crops from farmers that would go unsold in a trade war.

Rep. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.), the ranking Democrat on the House Agriculture Committee, has said using the funds would set a bad precedent by politicizing farm payments, Bloomberg reported.

“I am against a one-time bailout of a situation created by the administration,” Peterson said earlier this year. Farmers “want their markets left intact and not screwed up by some policy. Giving them money isn’t necessarily going to buy them off.”

Even Republican farm state Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said last month in a call with reporters that subsidies are “not what farmers in Iowa want — help from the federal Treasury,” the Des Moines Register reported.


Critics say that spending the massive fund is a waste of public money to mitigate a Trump bungle. It would also be a significant expenditure just as the U.S. debt is on track to be the biggest in history due to corporate tax cuts and spending hikes.

Former USDA chief economist Joseph Glauber told The Financial Times earlier this month that many farmers already have some safeguards from government-backed price and income supports and insurance.

As for using CCC money, Glauber added: “I just don’t like the idea of the government coming up with some balm to spread over wounds that are self-inflicted. It seems to be a huge moral hazard problem.”

Even those who support using the funds say they won’t be enough to save farmers grappling with decreasing demand triggered by retaliatory foreign tariffs. Farmer also risk losing key markets in the long term even as they’re subsidized. Farmers in Brazil are boosting soybean production to scoop up the Chinese market.

Brian Kuehl, executive director of Farmers for Free Trade, called the trade war “downright scary.”

“When American soybeans and corn become more expensive, South America wins,” Kuehl said in a statement.

Farm lobby groups had been battling against the imposition of the U.S. tariffs, arguing instead for negotiations over specific issues.

“It’s a whole lot easier not to wreck the car in the first place than it is to think about what a repair might look like,” a spokesman for the American Soybean Association told The New York Times earlier this year.
 

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i look forward to this fukkin idiot losing badly on this :dead: we're about to see a real lack of integrity from the repubs when it comes to no one calling him out
 

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Can't wait til those cacs that praise for trump gets hit with those crazy ass Tariffs prices...:mjlol: plus GERMANY going against us now, wait til you try to lease or buy a new BMW,Audi, VW, ETC, etc...
 

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Smh

Its obvious that Putin is forcing Trump to start a global financial collapse so the Russians can buy up America for cheap
Russia would throw china in the bushes to cozy up to america
Nope



Nope

That Rus-China play was already played decades ago..

The Chinese and Russians rarely do anyything separately nowadays.

Both countries are buying gold.

Both in recent months have dumped US Treasuries.

Both openly talk about the post US dollar order.
 

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The Chinese and Russians rarely do anyything separately nowadays.

Both countries are buying gold.

Both in recent months have dumped US Treasuries.

Both openly talk about the post US dollar order.

They must follow Austrian Economics......
 

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The Chinese and Russians rarely do anyything separately nowadays.

Both countries are buying gold.

Both in recent months have dumped US Treasuries.

Both openly talk about the post US dollar order.

They will probably go at each other... but not while the usa is still around. People need to work off that basis..
 
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