It's Underestimated how much Wayne Influenced Rappers

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forreal there's a whole certain way of rapping that basically everyone does now that Wayne really started. don't know how to explain what it is, someone who knows what i'm talking about chime in.

but i don't think there's arapper who came out in last 5 years who wasn't influenced by what Wayne did.

his flow, similies etc. there was a different way people freestyled before Wayne in 08
 

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Pretty much. The coli doesnt like to give Wayne credit for shyt, but the way rappers rap now was started by Wayne, right down to the rapid lean use. Yes, rappers did Lean before him, but did every rapper mention it in every song before him? Hell no. And let's not forget the biggest star in rap right now came from his 2008 run along with Nicki who is a big star in her on right.
 

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Wayne's the best rapper ever, in the sense that if you lined up every rapper ever in a room and just told them to rap right then and there, he'd be the nicest. He'd go the longest.

That's the only objective evaluation I use :yeshrug:

even besides that, i'm saying there's a certain way he started rapping that basically everyone does now to some extent. like i remember when aspring rappers would show me their shyt like my cousins etc. i would think 'another wayne clone smh' but then that went away and it just became the thing.

What did Wayne do that rappers hadn't done before?
read^^
 

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even besides that, i'm saying there's a certain way he started rapping that basically everyone does now to some extent. like i remember when aspring rappers would show me their shyt like my cousins etc. i would think 'another wayne clone smh' but then that went away and it just became the thing.


read^^

You're not really saying anything though, you keep saying that rappers are mimicking Wayne but you can't point out anything specific.
 

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Once Wayne blew up hip-hop largely moved towards punch-line oriented bars and away from narrative songs with song-long themes or stories. The latter being what you heard more coming out of NY and LA before Wayne blew. Once punch-line became dominant form those two regions fell off hard and the south was able to run with punch-line style rap and become the dominant region for ten plus years.. Wayne's style of "free association," that is pairs of bars that are largely unrelated content-wise but all sonically flow and rhyme, became the dominant form of commercial hip hop today largely due to him and to a lesser extent Eminem who sort of started it.

Purely off skills Wayne is probably one of the best 2-3 rappers the planet has ever seen. If you're talking freestyles it's either him or Em at #1. Wayne has 4-5 classics under his belt (including mixtapes) and probably could've had another 2-3 if his drug use could've been kept in check, he hadn't of gone to jail and possibly if he had more freedom in his albums later in his career depending on what actually happened between him and Birdman/Cash Money.

For people who were in middle school/high school/college from 2005-2009, it's going to be an event for those people when Wayne passes. I'm not sure we've ever seen a 5 years span so dominant.
 

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Once Wayne blew up hip-hop largely moved towards punch-line oriented bars and away from narrative songs with song-long themes or stories. The latter being what you heard more coming out of NY and LA before Wayne blew. Once punch-line became dominant form those two regions fell off hard and the south was able to run with punch-line style rap and become the dominant region for ten plus years.. Wayne's style of "free association," that is pairs of bars that are largely unrelated content-wise but all sonically flow and rhyme, became the dominant form of commercial hip hop today largely due to him and to a lesser extent Eminem who sort of started it.

Purely off skills Wayne is probably one of the best 2-3 rappers the planet has ever seen. If you're talking freestyles it's either him or Em at #1. Wayne has 4-5 classics under his belt (including mixtapes) and probably could've had another 2-3 if his drug use could've been kept in check, he hadn't of gone to jail and possibly if he had more freedom in his albums later in his career depending on what actually happened between him and Birdman/Cash Money.

For people who were in middle school/high school/college from 2005-2009, it's going to be an event for those people when Wayne passes. I'm not sure we've ever seen a 5 years span so dominant.

I know rap fans who were in middle school high school those years, were massive Wayne fans and don't give a fukk about Wayne's entire discography now. And it's not like they become backpackers. They're on that Drake/Future/Young Thug movement.

trust me when I say that Wayne is already becoming irrelevant
 
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I know rap fans who were in middle school high school those years and don't give a fukk about Wayne's entire discography. And it's not like they become backpackers. They're on that Drake/Future/Young Thug movement.

trust me when I say that Wayne is already becoming irrelevant

No one gives a fukk about Wayne's entire discography. Just the years I named:

Tha Carter 2 (December 2005)
The Dedication (December 2005)
Dedication 2 (May 2006)
Da Drought 3 (April 2007)
The Leak (December 2007) - obviously to a lesser extent.
Tha Carter 3 (June 2008)

And BTW the three rappers you named are some of the artists most heavily influenced by Wayne ever. And they admit it. You lost if you think that didn't prove even more so Wayne's influence.
 

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I know rap fans who were in middle school high school those years, were massive Wayne fans and don't give a fukk about Wayne's entire discography now. And it's not like they become backpackers. They're on that Drake/Future/Young Thug movement.

trust me when I say that Wayne is already becoming irrelevant
Drake future and thug are descendents of wayne.

I can still go back and bump like one of 10 way be mixtapes and zone out

And you can't possibly know every rap fan and make your basis off of that

Wayne a legend already

ASAP had the shortest run ever and his fanbase already moved on :mjlol:

Rocky had one hit and that's only cause he had the most popular rappers at the time on that shyt -- drake, kdot, 2 chainz
 

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No one gives a fukk about Wayne's entire discography. Just the years I named:

Tha Carter 2 (December 2005)
The Dedication (December 2005)
Dedication 2 (May 2006)
Da Drought 3 (April 2007)
The Leak (December 2007) - obviously to a lesser extent.
Tha Carter 3 (June 2008)

And BTW the three rappers you named are some of the artists most heavily influenced by Wayne ever. And they admit it. You lost if you think that didn't prove even more so Wayne's influence.
How you forget carter 1? :dahell:
No ceilings?

Dedication 1 dropped before carter 2
Plus we got the suffix and the like father like son album (and mixtape)

And you forgot C3 sessions....smh.

Wayne was the GOAT from 2004 to 2011 .... C4 was his official decline
 

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Once Wayne blew up hip-hop largely moved towards punch-line oriented bars and away from narrative songs with song-long themes or stories. The latter being what you heard more coming out of NY and LA before Wayne blew. Once punch-line became dominant form those two regions fell off hard and the south was able to run with punch-line style rap and become the dominant region for ten plus years.. Wayne's style of "free association," that is pairs of bars that are largely unrelated content-wise but all sonically flow and rhyme, became the dominant form of commercial hip hop today largely due to him and to a lesser extent Eminem who sort of started it.

Purely off skills Wayne is probably one of the best 2-3 rappers the planet has ever seen. If you're talking freestyles it's either him or Em at #1. Wayne has 4-5 classics under his belt (including mixtapes) and probably could've had another 2-3 if his drug use could've been kept in check, he hadn't of gone to jail and possibly if he had more freedom in his albums later in his career depending on what actually happened between him and Birdman/Cash Money.

For people who were in middle school/high school/college from 2005-2009, it's going to be an event for those people when Wayne passes. I'm not sure we've ever seen a 5 years span so dominant.

this man right here^^ explained it better than i could. i knew someone would 'get' what i meant. people take for granted how much Wayne really influenced or changed shyt
 
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