I’ve always said this but Asians treat math and science like we treat playing sports.

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To be taking AP calc as a freshmen and have access to diff eqs as a junior means she went to an amazing school system. most black people do not have access to that type of education. On top of that she was probably dreaming of going to MIT since she was a 6th grader, which means her parents or other people close to her are very academically inclined and helped got her onto that journey. If your parents don't know how to do calculus or aren't in position to put you in a great school system you can't replicate what this girl did. It takes the perfect storm of nature and nature to be one of the top high school students in the world.
 

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I’m going to take a different tack on this. Instead of arguing back and forth about whether it’s true or not, or making statements about whether we are or aren’t cooked, I’m going to ask this simple question:

What are any of you doing within your own sphere of influence to help resolve this problem?

Are you making sure the children you have influence over are doing well in their subjects? Have you encouraged them to read, to do their homework? Have you purchased books for them that help explain their subjects, Algebra, for example, in different ways that might stick? Have you tutored them, or provided a tutor if you’re not able to help them yourself? So on and so forth...


It’s easy to talk about how the Black community is cooked, that seems to flow easily from many of you. It’s also easy to reflexively deny there’s a problem. What’s harder is actually doing what you can to help alleviate the problem. The solution starts with each person who recognizes the problem and works to fix it; at least among those they have influence with, from family to close friends.
Doing all this with my kids but my kids are also well-resourced, upper class, private school kids. Their dad makes 6 figures and has a master's degree from an elite institution. I don't think kids like mine are the point of this thread. But maybe I am mistaken.

I think the questions are: what is our collective responsibility as the Coli talented tenth to fund, support and resource the average Black family? What nonprofits and startups should we be investing in? What politicians and political organizations are truly trying to move the needle for the black community?
 

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There’s so much more to life than trying to get a 4.0 to hopefully get into a “good school” to go work a job that’s unfulfilling like the “dumb” people who work unfulfilling jobs as well. Too many people have lost the plot on finding balance in all things. You got 18 years to be a kid/carefree, you shouldn’t be suicidal, on medication or have zero social memories to set yourself on the path to success.
 

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I don’t think it’s a black thing. I think it’s an American thing.

Definitely not a black thing. I have a coworker her son lasted 6 months at Penn State. For computer engineering, or computers or engineering something. This bytch wouldn't shut the fukk up about how smart her son is (didn't even get a scholarship) "he's soooooooo smart, soooooo sooooo smart, he's going to Penn State, OMG he's soooooo smart." Mf left in August came back in January for break, that was 2 years ago. Ain't cracked a book since.

But when he was going :mjpls: no one could tell her shyt about how smart her son was and how hard he works, "he didn't really have to study things just come naturally to him, he just understands things...."

Now it's "he's young, he will figure out what he wants to do...."
 

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People can hate on Thomas Sowell all they want. But he was one of the first to bring it up

Culture matters. What values you are instilling in your community and your children predicts who successful you are going to be when you grow up. Anti-intellectualism is unfortunately rampant in the Black Community
Nothing to do with culture, it is socioeconomic issues. Majority black areas are some of the worst funded education systems as well as poorest.
 

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It’s why doing good as a parent is key as well. There are just a lot of Asian adults that graduated in STEM whether Researcher, Scientist or Engineer. I’m willing to bet most of these kids’ parents do something like that professionally.

It’s not only good for money: it helps when someone’s parents are Scientists/Engineers, because they can teach all the Math and Physics lessons to their kids that the average grade school teacher and adult knows nothing about. The difference in Math and Physics learned between an Engineer/Scientist and an Elementary/High School teacher is unreal. Learning from the former vs the latter is lopsided.

Parents should really get more familiar with this stuff rather than rely on their elementary/high school teachers to teach their kids at a shallow level.
 
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Nothing to do with culture, it is socioeconomic issues. Majority black areas are some of the worst funded education systems as well as poorest.

Uh huh. Governments are like a Bank, not a noble benefactor that people think they are. They won't invest in communities that have not created their own solid economic infrastructure, that that they will get a financial return from. Our communities are a high risk investment to them
 

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I’m going to take a different tack on this. Instead of arguing back and forth about whether it’s true or not, or making statements about whether we are or aren’t cooked, I’m going to ask this simple question:

What are any of you doing within your own sphere of influence to help resolve this problem?

Are you making sure the children you have influence over are doing well in their subjects? Have you encouraged them to read, to do their homework? Have you purchased books for them that help explain their subjects, Algebra, for example, in different ways that might stick? Have you tutored them, or provided a tutor if you’re not able to help them yourself? So on and so forth...

It’s easy to talk about how the Black community is cooked, that seems to flow easily from many of you. It’s also easy to reflexively deny there’s a problem. What’s harder is actually doing what you can to help alleviate the problem. The solution starts with each person who recognizes the problem and works to fix it; at least among those they have influence with, from family to close friends.
They not trying to hear this.

And im not surprised when I look at the front page of this forum. I've had to block certain posters because they seem to exclusively post negativity about black people, many of the posts are coming from white supremacist dominated sites like Twitter. Im suspicious of who's actually black in this forum because some are very quick to accept white framing around our situations and all to eager to post content that reaffirms negative stereotypes.
 

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America is a nation that focuses on risk and short term gains.

The rest of the world focuses on longevity. An investment in education is something that can pay off over an entire lifetime. They understand this.

When you watch movies and tv shows from other parts of the world like Germany, England, south Africa, japan etc. Its remarkable how mature the people are. Adulthood is something that people actually respect. Over here people are in their 50s making the same kind of mistakes they were making as teenagers and young adults. People aren't honest with one another and its a constant game of bullshytting others.

Its not a white or black thing, its American culture as a WHOLE that focuses too much on short term gain and risk. People who travel to Japan or Korea come back saying "they're so ahead" nah breh, they aren't ahead they just give a shyt about the longevity of their people and culture. America doesn't. We don't have the same kind of programs they do because our government and financial institutions care about coddling the feelings of white billionaires instead of making the country one where everyone has a fair chance to succeed.

Well said!
 

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We do that but it’s not glorified at all. That’s really the unfortunate truth.

Getting a full ride to MIT won’t have the same impact as a football scholarship to Penn State

I don’t think it’s a black thing. I think it’s an American thing.
Exactly. MIT is a world renowned university with an extremely competive acceptance rate. And then you find out she's a hardcore math and not an economics or material science major. I would expect for her family to put her in the best position to get accepted. Plus that girl looks like a middle aged woman as a teen.
 
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