I’ve always said this but Asians treat math and science like we treat playing sports.

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Problem is, you get clowned at most schools for being smart or trying. Get labeled a dork and it’s essentially a scarlet letter in many cases.
 

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It was funny, read this post a couple days ago that gave an insight about the rarity and difficulty to get into these schools are:
 
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It’s why doing good as a parent is key as well. There are just a lot of Asian adults that graduated in STEM whether Researcher, Scientist or Engineer. I’m willing to bet most of the kids’ parents do something like that professionally.

It’s not only good for money: it helps when someone’s parents are Scientists/Engineers, because they can teach all the Math and Physics lessons to their kids that the average grade school teacher and adult knows nothing about. The difference in Math and Physics learned between an Engineer/Scientist and an Elementary/High School teacher is unreal. Learning from the former vs the latter is lopsided.

Parents should really get more familiar with this stuff rather than rely on their elementary/high school teachers to teach their kids at a shallow level.

I think it comes down to this too. One of my mom’s family friends are filled with high achievers. I’m not exaggerating for the Coli but legit, most of the grandkids, sons, daughters have gone to Harvard, Princeton, Duke, Johns Hopkins, etc. All Black. Mostly lawyers and doctors. Martha’s Vineyard in the summer type people. I think that’s how you have to do it. If your family demands success, your kids will feel pressured to fall in line.
 

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I’m going to take a different tack on this. Instead of arguing back and forth about whether it’s true or not, or making statements about whether we are or aren’t cooked, I’m going to ask this simple question:

What are any of you doing within your own sphere of influence to help resolve this problem?

Are you making sure the children you have influence over are doing well in their subjects? Have you encouraged them to read, to do their homework? Have you purchased books for them that help explain their subjects, Algebra, for example, in different ways that might stick? Have you tutored them, or provided a tutor if you’re not able to help them yourself? So on and so forth...

It’s easy to talk about how the Black community is cooked, that seems to flow easily from many of you. It’s also easy to reflexively deny there’s a problem. What’s harder is actually doing what you can to help alleviate the problem. The solution starts with each person who recognizes the problem and works to fix it; at least among those they have influence with, from family to close friends.

I’ve told my story on here before

I was helping kids back in 2016 and 2017 with just basic reading comprehension and they didn’t care,, it was all about being the next Kendrick, snoop, etc etc and these teenagers could hardly read at 7th grade levels and they was in the 10th grade..

U try to talk to the moms and instead of them taking any accountability the blame went on me or others

I gave up and about a few years later one kid gave me thanks because he went on to trade school and better his life
 

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I’ve always said Asians (or foreigners in general) aren’t more innately intelligent. It’s simply that they gear their focus on academics like it’s the end of the world. I remember back in college, I had to take a math class as a requirement. This class was easy AF. I didn’t take anything challenging because my major had nothing to do with math and I simply wanted a good grade. There were only two black students in the class, me and a black girl. The rest of the class consisted of white girls and Asians. I couldn’t believe how easy this class was. An example of how easy is…think finding the mean of numbers or adding fractions, and they were all struggling except me. The TA was a white chick, and she knew I grasped this stuff pretty easily, so she would only call on me after giving the other students a chance to figure it out. Ended up with a B+ in the class :snoop:

How did I get a B+ in such an easy class you ask? Well, homework was 10% of the grade and I never turned in a single assignment. Aced every in class assignment and exam, and I was an active participant.
 
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than rely on their elementary/high school teachers to teach their kids at a shallow level.

This.

A lot of classes just gloss over shyt. People would be surprised what their kids simply don't know if they ask basic questions.

What did you do in class today?

We learned about cells.

Oh yeah? What's a nucleus?

:dwillhuh: we haven't learned that yet, we just started....

Oh, ok...

Gets report card: Science A+

Whats a nucleus?

They didn't teach us that, I think maybe they'll teach us it next year :manny:

:snoop: .



Get your kid one of these
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There's all types of vocab words they don't know, science topics they've never heard of, biology, chemistry, science, geography....

My nephew was in national junior honor society in middle school, a requirement being you have to be on the all a honor roll every quarter...I gave him one of these literally 2 grades back and he was like :dwillhuh: :

Fortunately the resources are available there's all types of books like
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I don't know what standard these are supposed to meet, but whatever they're learning in school is often well below these generic standards. So you as a parent have to supplement what they learn.

If they say they're learning about the brain, find a 20 minute YouTube video on the brain or the central nervous system, etc.

Just relying on school, even if they're on honor roll ain't enough.
 
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I heard about this school.
I heard the brehs go to homecoming with the white girls and prom with the black queens.
Where all the black kids have active fathers and all the white kids come from single parent homes.

I wouldn’t go that far. :mjlol: We had kids from every walk of life. Nobody was really tripping about racial stuff back the. although I’m sure we had a few teachers that are probably maga today.

We had two white girls in the band that stayed getting trains ran on them.
 

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Problem is, you get clowned at most schools for being smart or trying. Get labeled a dork and it’s essentially a scarlet letter in many cases.

This ain't necessarily true anymore. It's not 'cool' to be dumb anymore. Nowadays kids are driven by rewards/accolades/attention.

shyt even back in the 90s you'd get clowned for being a real fukking dummy.

shyt being a dork/need is kind of in. Whether they want to or not kids emulate adults. Adults aren't wearing fake glasses with no lenses in the frame anymore trying to look nerdy like what the trend was, but the pseudo intellectual "im smarter than you" thing is pretty large.

Even in school it wasn't being smart that got you clowned it was more being a fukking dork/nerd i.e no social skills, late puberty, still letting mom pick out your pants where the legs were too high, no room in the crotch and your shirt. Even if those kids werent smart...they were still swagless and had issues with social skills that regular mfs didn't want to associate with them.
 

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America is a nation that focuses on risk and short term gains.

The rest of the world focuses on longevity. An investment in education is something that can pay off over an entire lifetime. They understand this.

When you watch movies and tv shows from other parts of the world like Germany, England, south Africa, japan etc. Its remarkable how mature the people are. Adulthood is something that people actually respect. Over here people are in their 50s making the same kind of mistakes they were making as teenagers and young adults. People aren't honest with one another and its a constant game of bullshytting others.

Its not a white or black thing, its American culture as a WHOLE that focuses too much on short term gain and risk. People who travel to Japan or Korea come back saying "they're so ahead" nah breh, they aren't ahead they just give a shyt about the longevity of their people and culture. America doesn't. We don't have the same kind of programs they do because our government and financial institutions care about coddling the feelings of white billionaires instead of making the country one where everyone has a fair chance to succeed.

America's culture was slavery breh. Still is.
A nation can't last on that

Ancient Egypt fell off because of slavery.
 

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This ain't necessarily true anymore. It's not 'cool' to be dumb anymore. Nowadays kids are driven by rewards/accolades/attention.

shyt even back in the 90s you'd get clowned for being a real fukking dummy.

shyt being a dork/need is kind of in. Whether they want to or not kids emulate adults. Adults aren't wearing fake glasses with no lenses in the frame anymore trying to look nerdy like what the trend was, be the pseudo intellectual "im smarter than you" thing is pretty large.

Even in school it wasn't being smart that got you clowned it was more being a fukking dork/nerd i.e no social skills, late puberty, still letting mom pick out your pants where the legs were too high, no room in the crotch and your shirt. Even if those kids were smart...they were still swagless and had issues with social skills that regular mfs didn't want to associate with them.
Nah, I have nephews and a niece in school. It’s great that you want to re-write shyt, but it was always:

“Why you talking so white for” etc etc etc

And it’s still like that.

If you’re from an inner-city, those conversations plague you until college.


If you’re from some hickory ass part of the country idk maybe, but the bar is low there in the first place
 

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“Why you talking so white for” etc etc etc

The way you talk or the sound of your voice has nothing to do with grades. Which is what being a nerd is based on. Some kids particularly may feel that way. Especially in the black community where it's either stereotypically "yo yo yo, im gangsta" or "being white or white adjacent"

You can not talk white and still get good grades. Just like you can talk white and still be a fukking dummy.

If your nieces and and nephews are struggling with the social component, just make sure their grades are on point, everything else will work itself out.
 

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I’m going to take a different tack on this. Instead of arguing back and forth about whether it’s true or not, or making statements about whether we are or aren’t cooked, I’m going to ask this simple question:

What are any of you doing within your own sphere of influence to help resolve this problem?

Are you making sure the children you have influence over are doing well in their subjects? Have you encouraged them to read, to do their homework? Have you purchased books for them that help explain their subjects, Algebra, for example, in different ways that might stick? Have you tutored them, or provided a tutor if you’re not able to help them yourself? So on and so forth...

It’s easy to talk about how the Black community is cooked, that seems to flow easily from many of you. It’s also easy to reflexively deny there’s a problem. What’s harder is actually doing what you can to help alleviate the problem. The solution starts with each person who recognizes the problem and works to fix it; at least among those they have influence with, from family to close friends.
To add to this, the people complaining, do they know math and science, what do they do for living, I think it’s interesting to see from posters and how they want to have “productive” conversations about why black people cant do something, they wax poetic about black culture apparently being anti intellectual, dikkriding others, etc.

What’s the highest level of math and science do they know for real, what do they do for living, what grades was the getting in school?
 
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