J. Cole goes at Kanye, Drake, and mumble rappers on new album

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He previewed 2 songs off the album in a new documentary he released today

From the first song (Everybody Dies?):

Going at Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert, all these short Pitchfork-championed mumble rappers, especially Lil Yachty who was dissing legends in tweets a while back, and who's got something against people who actually rap

From the second song (False Prophetz?):
Ego in charge of every move, he's a star
And we can't look away due to the days that he caught our hearts
He's falling apart but we deny it
Justifying that half ass shyt he dropped, we always buy it
When he tell us he a genius but it's clearer lately
It's been hard for him to look into the mirror lately
There was a time when this nikka was my hero, maybe
That's the reason why his fall from grace is hard to take
'Cause I believed him when he said his shyt was purer and he
The type of nikka swear he real but all around him's fake
The women, the dikkriders, you know, the yes men
Nobody with the balls to say something to contest him
So he grows out of control into the person that he truly was all along, it's starting to show, damn
Wonder what happened
Maybe it's my fault for idolizing nikkas based off the words they be rappin'
But come to find out, these nikkas don't even write they shyt
Hear some new style bubblin' up, then they bite the shyt
Damn, that's what I get for lyin' to myself
Well fukk it, what's more important is he's cryin' out for help
While the world's eggin' him on, I'm beggin' him to stop
And playin' his old shyt, knowin' he won't top it
False prophets

Every line in that verse is pretty much about Kanye/Drake. Kanye was one of J. Cole's early idols/influences, and everything in that verse (it makes sense now as to why Kanye & Cole have always had a lot of separation between them) is probably Cole's thoughts about Kanye. The latter half of the verse probably applies to Drake too

2nd verse might also be about Wale

I got a homie, he a rapper and he wanna win bad
He want the fame, the acclaim, the respect that's been had
By all the legends
So every time I see him, he stressin'
Talkin' 'bout, nikka's don't fukk with him, the shyt is depressin'
And I know he so bitter he can't see his own blessin's
God damn nikka, you too blind to see you got fans nikka
And a platform to make a classic rap song
To change a nikka life, but you too anxious livin' life
Always worried 'bout the critics who ain't ever fukkin' did it

I write what's in my heart, don't give a fukk who fukkin' with it
But in a sense I can relate, the need to be great
Turns into an obsession and keeps a nikka up late
Writin' words, hopin' people observe the dedication
That stirs in you constantly, but intentions get blurred
Do I do it for the love of the music or is there more to me?
Do I want these nikka's to worship me?
False prophets







Young Simba taking no prisoners :banderas: Upped his percussion game too, his drums don't sound like some muddy 2009 shyt anymore
 
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The Kanye stuff is not hate. Or a diss really. It's his honest perspective. J Cole's built his entire career of trying to remake Late Registration/College Dropout with a better flow. You can tell those early Kanye albums are a prime influence but definitely not anything after a certain point.

I would say Kanye's weakest solo albums are at the very least on par with Cole's best.
 

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J Cole ain't talking about Idolizing Drake, they're peers. And he's older than Drake :mjlol:

"But come to find out, these nikkas don't even write they shyt/Hear some new style bubblin' up, then they bite the shyt" are flagrant shots at Drake, I don't know how you can be in denial about that

The Kanye stuff is not hate. Or a diss really. It's his honest perspective. J Cole's built his entire career of trying to remake Late Registration/College Dropout with a better flow. You can tell those early Kanye albums are a prime influence but definitely not anything after a certain point.

I would say Kanye's weakest solo albums are at the very least on par with Cole's best.

Wait how is comparing Kanye albums to Cole albums even a relevant talking point in this thread
 
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That was a little over a year ago, things/relationships can change and easily break down in that period of time. It doesn't even matter though, because "But come to find out, these nikkas don't even write they shyt/Hear some new style bubblin' up, then they bite the shyt" are flagrant shots at Drake, I don't know how you can be in denial about that

no breh. They're flagrant shots at Kanye. Kanye doesn't write his own shyt and is a huge waverider.

Use common sense. Yes, the 'you don't write shyt and you a waverider' can also apply to Drake, but in this case it applies way more to Ye because every other part of the same verse applies to Ye. Why would J Cole, who obviously is speaking about one individual in the entire verse, suddenly direct two or three lines at Drake, only to switch it back to Ye? He's saying he even idolized the dude. Sure it's possible he idolized 6 Krishna but let's be real - what makes more sense?
 

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That was a little over a year ago, things/relationships can change and easily break down in that period of time. It doesn't even matter though, because "But come to find out, these nikkas don't even write they shyt/Hear some new style bubblin' up, then they bite the shyt" are flagrant shots at Drake, I don't know how you can be in denial about that

I see it as a Kanye shot. He ain't gonna say he idolized Drake lmao (like I said they're peers and J Cole is older than Drake) and the time period doesn't matter. He invited Drake to perform at his shyt after the ghost writing stuff.

You guys want it to be a Drake diss. That's all :laugh: If that makes you feel good then cool.
 

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I see it as a Kanye shot. He ain't gonna say he idolized Drake lmao (like I said they're peers and J Cole is older than Drake) and the time period doesn't matter. He invited Drake to perform at his shyt after the ghost writing stuff.

You guys want it to be a Drake diss. That's all :laugh: If that makes you feel good then cool.

No one hearing those lines aren't gonna think of Drake, bottom line, end of story. Cole isn't stupid, nor is he clueless enough to write a bar like that and think people won't draw conclusions as to who he's talking about.
 

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no breh. They're flagrant shots at Kanye. Kanye doesn't write his own shyt and is a huge waverider.

Use common sense. Yes, the 'you don't write shyt and you a waverider' can also apply to Drake, but in this case it applies way more to Ye because every other part of the same verse applies to Ye. Why would J Cole, who obviously is speaking about one individual in the entire verse, suddenly direct two or three lines at Drake, only to switch it back to Ye?

These guys so desperate for Drake to hold some L's they force it.
 

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No one hearing those lines aren't gonna think of Drake, bottom line, end of story. Cole isn't stupid, nor is he clueless enough to write a bar like that and think people won't draw conclusions as to who he's talking about.

You think Cole idolized Drake? (serious question)
 
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