Jalen Hurts is finally silencing the critics and showing the world he’s elite “ The official Jalen Hurts MVP tracker thread”

[desjardins]

He’s had like a different OC every year

The Philly Ringer show actually addressed this excuse on one of their recent podcasts
It's only a handful of teams that have had consistent OCs in the league the giants was one example they gave, Jalen situation is not that unique as good OC almost always bounce to HC jobs the first chance they get

 

[desjardins]

Even tho that's a in house promoted new OC....any of us in that position would scheme AJ Brown and Smitty open....how do u not do that?

I don't know
Again the Philly Ringer show highlighted multiple inferior offenses with WAY less talent being about to scheme opportunities for big passing plays last week
Trash ass Daniel Jones threw for over 300yds on a good Bronco defense. His OC put him in position to do so

 

[Mister Terrific]

LMAO @ THIS IDIOT
COMPARING PASSING NUMBERS
IN THE 90S TO THE 2020S.

AT HIS "PEAK" AIKMAN
WAS 3RD IN TDS AND 4TH IN PASSING
YARDS.

WHICH SEASONS WAS HURTS
TOP 5 IN EITHER
OF THESE PASSING CATEGORIES?


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Beyond passing yardage Hurts passing efficiencies are all beyond Aikmans to go a long with being one of the greatest running QBs ever. Better completion %, better TD%, better passer rating, better Interception% more yards per attempt and he never had a season where he threw more picks than touchdowns:


Now I will chalk this moment of weakness to logic to the fact that you’ve had to watch the Bears every weekend for the last 15 years and will have to watch them for the next 20.

It would be like that brief window where the Eagles were starting Sam Bradford and trading Lesean McCoy for Kiko Alonso. That likewise nearly drove me insane.

 

[MikelArteta]

This is the same man who was the runner up for the Hiesman the season after he lost his starting job to Tua (remember when Tua was supposed to be better)? You're not going to convince me that its a coincidence and luck that he's had consistent playoff runs & is a Super Bowl champion.

Doesn't matter that he doesnt make you feel as warm inside as Joe "Cool" does or have Josh Allen's arm. He wins games & shows up in the biggest moments. Some of you didnt want him here, but he's not going anywhere. No sense in frustrating yourself arguing about it.

Yup
Stat whores the type to take karl anthony towns over tim duncan

 

[CHICAGO]

Beyond passing yardage Hurts passing efficiencies are all beyond Aikmans to go a long with being one of the greatest running QBs ever. Better completion %, better TD%, better passer rating, better Interception% more yards per attempt and he never had a season where he threw more picks than touchdowns:


Now I will chalk this moment of weakness to logic to the fact that you’ve had to watch the Bears every weekend for the last 15 years and will have to watch them for the next 20.

It would be like that brief window where the Eagles were starting Sam Bradford and trading Lesean McCoy for Kiko Alonso. That likewise nearly drove me insane.

AIKMAN LEAD THE LEAGUE
IN COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
IN 1993...
HE WAS 2ND IN COMPLETION
PERCENTAGE IN 94/95/96
AND 5TH IN COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
IN 1992

WHEN HAS HURTS
EVER BEEN TOP 5 IN
COMPLETION PERCENTAGE?

AND WHILE YOURE AT IT....

WHICH SEASONS WAS HURTS
EVER TOP 5 IN TDS OR PASSING YARDS?



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[Standing on business]

Yup
Stat whores the type to take karl anthony towns over tim duncan

Not one person would take KAT over Duncan



While there will always be variables, stats is a good way to compare quarterbacks. "Winning" is a team stat. And the ability to to "come up in big moments" Is due to your great team giving you the opportunity.


Russel Wilson threw 4 INT in playoff game and still won. The talking point was Russ came up big when it counted lol.

 

[Mister Terrific]

He's better than Lawrence to me, but if you put those other guys you mentioned on the Eagles...

They what? Post top 10 Super Bowl and post season performances all time?

After completing 71.3 percent of his passes in Super Bowl LVII and 77.3 percent Sunday in Super Bowl LIX, Hurts is now the most accurate passer in Super Bowl history with a 73.3 career completion percentage (minimum 50 attempts). Troy Aikman is second at 70 percent. Hurts also joined Aikman, Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes as the fourth quarterback in history to complete 70 percent of his passes in more than one Super Bowl. Hurts’ 77.3 percent accuracy Sunday is 4th-highest in Super Bowl history, behind Phil Simms’ 88.0 percent in Super Bowl XXI vs. the Giants in 1986, Drew Brees’ 82.1 in Super Bowl XLIV vs. the Colts in 2009 and Mahomes’ 77.8 in Super Bowl LVII two years ago against the Eagles.

Hurts now has a career Super Bowl passer rating of 109.4, which is 4th-highest in NFL history behind three Hall of Famers: Joe Montana (127.8), Terry Bradshaw (112.8) and Troy Aikman (111.9). He’s the seventh quarterback to have a passer rating of 100 or higher in multiple Super Bowls but only the fourth to have a 100 passer rating in his first two Super Bowls, along with Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana and Russell Wilson. Hurts has six career postseason games with a passer rating of at least 100. Only Patrick Mahomes (seven) had more before his 27th birthday. Only Russell Wilson (four) also had more than three. Regardless of age, only eight QBs have more career playoff games with a passer rating of 100 or higher: Brady, Mahomes, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman and Drew Brees.


Hurts completed 75.0 percent of his passes against the Rams, 71.4 percent against the Commanders and 77.3 percent Sunday vs. the Chiefs. The only quarterbacks with longer postseason streaks completing 70 percent of their passes are Matt Ryan (five games), Warren Moon (four) and Joe Montana (four). Hurts completed 74.3 percent of his passes during that three-game span, and only six quarterbacks have had a higher completion percentage over any three-game postseason span: Joe Montana, Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman, Jared Goff, Patrick Mahomes and Nick Foles. Hurts threw just 26 incomplete passes in the Eagles’ four postseason wins this year. He was 61-for-91 for 71.4 percent, which is 5th-highest in a single postseason by a Super Bowl champion (but 2nd-highest in Eagles history behind Foles’ 72.6 percent in 2017). Hurts has completed 71.3 percent of his passes in six postseason games going back to LVII. The only quarterbacks who’ve had more accurate six-game postseason spans are Aikman, Montana and Mahomes.


Hurts now has five career postseason games where he’s completed at least 70 percent of his passes. Only five quarterbacks in history have had more – Patrick Mahomes (9), Troy Aikman (7), Drew Brees (7), Tom Brady (7) and Josh Allen (6). Hurts’ career postseason completion percentage of 66.8 percent is 6th-highest in NFL history (minimum 100 attempts)


Hurts threw only 26 incomplete passes in the postseason, or 6 ½ per game. That’s the 3rd-fewest incomplete passes per game by a Super Bowl-champion quarterback. Bob Griese threw 11 incomplete passes in three games for the Dolphins in 1973 (but only threw 31 passes) and Joe Montana threw 18 incomplete passes in three games for the 49ers in the 1989 postseason.

We came up with the 10 most mind-boggling Jalen Hurts Super Bowl stats

Putting into perspective some of the most mind-boggling stats registered by Super Bowl LIX MVP, Jalen Hurts.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Standing on business]

^^^^^^^^^^^

Chat GPT- Why is Jalen Hurts Elite?

 

[King Kreole]

Because when it matters and when he has to turn it on, he turns it on and beat all of those guys.

So what are we really saying here? How am I trash when I beat all the nikkas that are better than me every time

Just to put it in proper context.....yall are calling Jalen a game manager.....that's like Trent Dilfer playing Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Ben Roethlisberger and having 300 yard games, with 3 TDs, and 50 rushing yards everytime he played those elite guys. Dilfer never came close to doing that stuff, and if he did, he would've been respected.

When people balk at putting Jalen in certain conversations, they are calling him trash.

The man has beaten the best of the best...Mahomes / Allen / Lamar...and yall dudes are struggling to say he's better than guys like CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love. That is extreme disrespect. Those dudes didn't go toe to toe with Prime Kansas City, Prime Mahomes, and win a Super Bowl. Them nikkas struggling to beat middle of the pack teams.

Quarterbacks don't play other quarterbacks, they play the opposing team's defense. So no, Jalen Hurts hasn't beaten Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, he beat their defenses. And for the record, he's averaging 200 yards and 1 TD in the playoffs, so I don't know where this 300 yards with 3 TDs is coming from lol.

 

[Art Barr]

Who’s better?

My pr9blem with critique of jalen is. The critiques sound like the same pr used to remove him in alabama and be demonstrative. All because alabama used to be able to and can treat five star top flight tslent as disposabl.
Jalen is better because both have similar timelines. Having to adjust from adversity in college. Yet jalen made it to a bowl and failed. Then went back and won. While burrow has made a bowl and failed. Then never made it back to win.
In timeline jalen is better and has persevered through more adversity and no fan fare.



Not sure wtf it is about pennsylvania winning qb's. Yet just like the blonde bomber in steel country. They talk shyt about bradshaw.
Now they talk shyt about jalen.
When both won through adversity and had all the skills needed to execute under duress on rhe highest platforms of comp. Then convert under that duress.

Jalen plays like an nfc championship qb. Real talk. Past belichek being a nfc master then using those tactics. To make people forget the afc was owned by the nfc. People forget past afc qb's only looked good after the steelers.
for the rego season and always generally failed in the bowl. Like got owned.
Jalen is a god qb. People need to respect his skill and ability.
to execute under duress and professional adversity.

That is the chief skill in sports. That trumps the talking points of what a great qb is.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Quarterbacks don't play other quarterbacks, they play the opposing team's defense. So no, Jalen Hurts hasn't beaten Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, he beat their defenses. And for the record, he's averaging 200 yards and 1 TD in the playoffs, so I don't know where this 300 yards with 3 TDs is coming from lol.

Jalen Hurts Career Stats In The Super Bowl | StatMuse

Jalen Hurts has a passer rating of 109.4 with 525 yards, 3 touchdowns and 1 interception in 2 games in Super Bowls in his career.

www.statmuse.com

I think you forget.

Players are judged on what they produced on the grandest stage.
Similar to basketball.
Nba players are judged on.
if they allowed a seventh game. Then under duress how did they perform in game seven. If they were not superior enough to win in four to six games.
Example. Kobe in game seven versus the celtics. People take that as the narrative for kobe's individual play. Which is why it is difficult to move kobe's name into the general talking points versus lebron in legacy. While both are inferior in every possible way to jordan.

Jalen is judged on his ultimate performance in the grand stage.


Jalen converted under complete duress.
Plus right now is winning in the rego season as defending champions. With people playing up because the eagles are champions. The critiques of jalen that are neg based this season. Come from people who probably grassroots. Never saw a team win a championship. As they do not understand. That a champion's adversity will play up. To make any encounter murky water and a testament to sheer will.

Anyone not giving jalen this credit in critique. Needs to be called out. As i know that sportswriter or fan. Has never experiemced real winning. To understand the duress a defending champion has. To thwart the other team completely playing up.

Jalen actually beat the chiefs aware of teams playing up. Plus jalen is now winning. Experiencing teams playing up to the championship eagles.

Art Barr

 

[Ozymandeas]

Quarterbacks don't play other quarterbacks, they play the opposing team's defense. So no, Jalen Hurts hasn't beaten Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, he beat their defenses. And for the record, he's averaging 200 yards and 1 TD in the playoffs, so I don't know where this 300 yards with 3 TDs is coming from lol.

I’m clearly talking about the Superbowl my guy.

Jalen had 304 passing yards with one touchdown, 15 rushes for 70 yards and three rushing touchdowns vs. the Chiefs in their first Superbowl.

He had 221 passing yards, two touchdowns, 11 rushes for 72 yards and 1 rushing touchdown in the second Superbowl.

Why can’t Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson do that

 

[PHamm]

He's better than Lawrence to me, but if you put those other guys you mentioned on the Eagles...

With all due respect, that makes me question your analysis more than Jalens game

 

[Dorian Breh]

The Philly Ringer show actually addressed this excuse on one of their recent podcasts
It's only a handful of teams that have had consistent OCs in the league the giants was one example they gave, Jalen situation is not that unique as good OC almost always bounce to HC jobs the first chance they get

If you say “play caller” it’s different. Lots of QBs had the same play caller for multiple years because it’s their head coach.

 

[KFBF]

With all due respect, that makes me question your analysis more than Jalens game

With all due respect, he's an NFL player and I'm a coli breh engaging in time theft. I'd hope you'd be more skeptical of KateFabersBoyfriend than Jalen Hurts.