Jay - Z >>>> Shakespehere, Obama

[Ghost Utmost]

Jay-Z has a course based on his music taught at some University in Atlanta

In 100 years will he? In fact what true academic would take you seriously if you graduated from the class in JZ with an A+? Lemme help. No and none.

 

[Ill-Yaz]

I am starting to hate these egomaniacal idiots. JZ is not someone who will be studied by students in 100 years. Immortal Tech, Bis, KRS, Chuck, dudes like that maybe but JZ? No possible way.

Belafonte is 1000% right about this c00n. If he was so in love with BK then his clothes would be made in Marcy. The shyt should not even be projects now it should be revitalized by JZ's tone deaf ass.

America will never give us much more than food and low rent housing. If Black people ever "make it" it will be because the rich ones take a chance on their hometowns and INVEST.

fukking c00n. Your presence is not a gift motherfukker, you're a parasite.

None of these rappers are going to be studied

Lmao at the idea of there being classes on KRS One and Bis

 

[Ill-Yaz]

In 100 years will he? In fact what true academic would take you seriously if you graduated from the class in JZ with an A+? Lemme help. No and none.

But those who graduated in (insert name of any other rapper) will be taken seriously in the real world?

Stop posting dawg

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Damn. Okay lemme go slow. Shakespeare is timeless because of his CONTENT. Unless history totally forgets Hip Hop all together, the only material that will last into the far future will be that they with complex CONTENT. Canibus, Immortal Twch and others use rhymes to say very complex ideas. Hip Hops legacy in the next century will be the ideas we pioneered not who dissed who or who fukked who's baby mom.

You can debate if Chuck will last that long as a PHILOSOPHER, but it is clear that JZ WILL NOT. If you can't dig that then you're slow. It's fine ro start out slow but try to catch up.

Point being: JZ is NO Shakespeare.

 

[DStyles]

In 100 years will he? In fact what true academic would take you seriously if you graduated from the class in JZ with an A+? Lemme help. No and none.

Just stop

If Shakespeare content is timeless then why the fukk would you mention Immortal Technique. Who the fukk is he to hip hop?

NOTHING!

Matter of fact, who the fukk is Immortal Technique?

 

[Skilltastrophy]

Damn. Okay lemme go slow. Shakespeare is timeless because of his CONTENT. Unless history totally forgets Hip Hop all together, the only material that will last into the far future will be that they with complex CONTENT. Canibus, Immortal Twch and others use rhymes to say very complex ideas. Hip Hops legacy in the next century will be the ideas we pioneered not who dissed who or who fukked who's baby mom.

You can debate if Chuck will last that long as a PHILOSOPHER, but it is clear that JZ WILL NOT. If you can't dig that then you're slow. It's fine ro start out slow but try to catch up.

Point being: JZ is NO Shakespeare.

lol @ this nonsense...as if Canibus or Immortal Technique are ever going to be remembered...what historical document is there that will make them believe these guys were great?

the way history unfolds it's those that are written about in the paper of record that get remembered...think about how often we look back on history through old newspapers and such...Jay-Z's had cover stories written on him...major networks have done pieces on him...Canibus and Immortal Technique have none of that.

whether you agree with him or not is up to you...but your statement about history not remembering him over those other silly rappers you mentioned is ridiculous...Chuck D and KRS could have lasting legacies for sure...but Bis and IT?

 

[Richard Wright]

Jay is the fukking man.

 

[The Real]

In an interview with Rap Radar’s Elliott Wilson, Jay-Z talked to the journalist about a variety of things, including his feelings about being called out by Harry Belafonte. Jigga man had already made reference to the activist and legendary actor on his newest album on a song called Nickels and Dimes, as if Belafonte is a 25 year old Jay Z has beef with. It randomly goes like this:

I’m just trying to find common ground/‘fore Mr. Belafonte come and chop a ni**a down/Mr. Day O, major fail/Respect these youngins boy, it’s my time now/Hublot homie, two door homie/You don’t know all the s**t I do for the homies”

Well, Jay still had a lot to say about Mr. Belafonte in his sit down with Wilson, and also shared his thoughts on why he couldn’t sleep for days after the Zimmerman verdict, and why he thinks he has so much in common with Shakespeare and Basquiat. Let’s just say it was very interesting to say the least:

On Harry Belafonte saying he Beyoncé have turned their back on social responsibility despite the amount of power they have:

“I’m offended by that because first of all, this is going to sound arrogant, but my presence is charity. Just who I am, just like Obama is. Obama provides hope. Whether he does anything, that hope that he provides for a nation and outside of America is enough. Just being who he is. You’re the first black president. If he speaks on any issue or anything, he should be left alone. Of course we want to challenge [Obama] to do better, but I felt like Belafonte just went about it wrong. The way he did it, within the media, and then he bigged up Bruce Springsteen. It was like, ‘Whoa, you just sent the wrong message all around. You just bigged up the white guy against me in the white media.’ I’m not saying that in a racial way. I’m saying what it was just the wrong way to go about it. My presence is charity! Just this guy who came from Marcy projects apartment 530C, to these places of me playing in Yankee stadium tonight.”

How the Zimmerman verdict impacted him:

“I was really angry, I didn’t sleep for two days. I was really angry about it. We all knew there was still a bit of racism in America but for it to be so blatant… Ask yourself the question, ‘Didn’t Travyon have a right to stand his ground?’ He was being chased, he fought back. He may have won. That doesn’t mean he’s a criminal. He won. If you chase me and you try to attack me and I defend myself, how can I be in the wrong? How is that right? This guy went to get some skittles and go back to watch the All-Star game. He had plans. He had no intentions of robbing anyone’s home. It’s a thing where it’s like a reminder of, ‘We still got a long way to go.’ It’s beautiful because this generation right now, they don’t see color in that way. They’re funding George Zimmerman because they want to hold on to their guns. We all know it was wrong.”
And why he likes to compare himself to Shakespeare and Jean-Michel Basquiat:

“Shakespeare was a man who wrote poetry. I’m a man who writes poetry. Why not compare yourself to the best? I’m supposed to be here to be second best? I’m not doing this for that. If other people are cool with settling or not putting themselves in that light, that’s their personal preference. If you don’t want to be in that light, that’s fine. I’m not mad at you! I don’t have an opinion on what you want to do, if you want to be second, that’s cool, so don’t have an opinion on me wanting to be Jean Michel [Basquiat] or Shakespeare.

People don’t realize, I put a lot of my life into what I am doing right now. I didn’t just have a hit record and get lucky, I put a lot of my life into it so the things that come out of it, is not due to this bravado and arrogance, I have confidence because of the work I put in. I put in so much work! I’m claiming four classics.”

See what I mean? Interesting…

- See more at: Jay Z Responds To Criticism From Harry Belafonte And Says "My Presence Is Charity" | MadameNoire | Black Women's Lifestyle Guide | Black Hair | Black Love​

@BarNone , I will be responding to that other thread eventually, but in the meantime, you know I had to shout you out here.

 

[bangedher_wholesquad]

I dunno. Don't think jay is a staple in the English language.

 

[No1]

@BarNone , I will be responding to that other thread eventually, but in the meantime, you know I had to shout you out here.

I think he worded that very poorly, but I do get part of his point. It's like when Kendrick Lamr was at the BET awards saying kids could see him and know it's possible or when anyone says they are an example. He means just what he represents is a positive in and of itself. Seeing him in that position and recognizing where he came from. I can't say that is wrong. I see people younger than me and around my age and they say Jay and think, "damn he's doing it. That's the type of hustle I need to get on. I can't even be mad at him." Though, I do hate the phrase "getting my grown man on." You're either an adult or your not. It's not something you can turn on or off, but let me not get all pretentious. I think Jay unintentionally gave them a soundbite here. But if you listen to it fully Elliot Wilson references that the purest form of giving is anonymous to anonymous which Jay said in Nickels and Dimes. Jay is like, "Yeah, but even besides all that....my presence is charity." But Jay basically said why I thought he was mad. He needs to let it go though and not address it again. He can't win this one.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

I guess this is what stannery is all about. I can understand that nikkas delusional enough to call JZ "God MC\" and "Hov" could think JZ is in league with Shakespeare. It's just kinda weird to see them ACTUALLY arguing the point seriously.

History doesn't remember Shakespeare the man by the way. Some people don't even think he was one real man. What is left, like I said, is the bars. No doubt JZ will be known to the history books, but not for saying anything profound. Ever.