Jeb Bush Would Have Authorized Iraq War — Even Knowing What We Know Now

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MAY 11, 2015 5:06 PM ET
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Then-President George W. Bush jokes with his brother Jeb, the then-Florida governor, in 2006. Jeb Bush has been asked before, and is sure to be again, how he would distinguish himself from his brother.

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If one of Jeb Bush's biggest stumbling blocks to the presidency is his brother's tumultuous tenure in the White House, this past week hasn't been a good one for the former Florida governor.

After telling a group of fundraisers behind closed doors that former President George W. Bush was one of his advisers on the Middle East, the likely 2016 GOP hopeful followed that up telling Fox News' Megyn Kelly that he would have authorized the Iraq War — even knowing what we know now.

"I would have, and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody," Bushtold Kelly in an interview to air Monday night. "And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got."

He added, "News flash to the world, if they're trying to find places where there's big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those." (In the clip posted by Fox, the audio drops out after that, so it's unclear what he goes on to say right afterward.)

The former governor's point that Clinton, now the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, voted for the 2003 Iraq War resolution very likely won't mute the issue for him, though.

While Clinton, then a New York senator, took heat for her vote in the 2008 campaign — and that was a big reason she lost the Democratic nomination — she has since called the vote "wrong."

In her 2014 memoir, Hard Choices, she said she "wasn't alone in getting it wrong. But I still got it wrong. Plain and simple."

In other words, knowing what we know now, Clinton says she would not have authorized the invasion.

Bush tried to qualify his reasoning by pointing to the faulty intelligence that led to the war. But anything that reminds voters of his ties not just to his brother but to his brother's policies is a huge negative.

"I love my father and my brother," Bush said in February during a speech in Chicago. "I admire their service to the nation and the difficult decisions they had to make. But I am my own man —and my views are shaped by my own thinking and own experiences."

But as the months tick by, Jeb Bush has not shown how, exactly, substantively, he would be different from his brother George W., particularly with regard to one of those "difficult decisions" — deciding to go into Iraq.

Despite finding no "weapons of mass destruction," Bush argued in a 2010 interview with CBS News' Jim Axelrod that removing Saddam Hussein from power made "America more secure."

"In my view, what justifies everything is the removal of a threat," Bush said in the interview.

But once it was found that no WMD was discovered, the decision became very unpopular and was a big reason for Bush's and the GOP's decline in popularity. The national Republican Party is still trying to emerge from the shadow of the Bush presidency as it tries to win back the White House for the first time in more than a decade.

Just before Bush left the White House in December 2008, his job approval rating was a meager 29 percent, according to Gallup, with a staggering 67 percent disapproving.

A March NBC/Wall Street Journal survey showed just how much the younger Bush has to do to step out of his brother's shadow. Sixty percent of voters — and 42 percent of Republicans — said the former Florida governor represents a return to the policies of the past, higher than the 51 percent who thought the same thing about Clinton.

Just 27 percent of registered voters said Bush would provide new ideas and vision for the country, while 49 percent of GOP voters said the same thing.

Bush has seen his standing both in early state and in national polls decline recently, as other candidates have gotten in the race and he remains officially on the sidelines.

CorrectionMay 11, 2015


A previous version of this post incorrectly said that the share of voters who think Hillary Clinton represents a return to past policies is 60 percent. The correct figure is 51 percent.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpoli...ign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150511


Come on...


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"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. Biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. This confrontation is willed by god, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a new age begins" - his advisor on the Middle East.

Should be in a fukking mental asylum :snoop:
 
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And see it's that stupidity of these republicans and democrats which blow my mind...

How about saying in hindsight knowing what we know now. it was a grave mistake going to war, getting our soldiers killed without much payoff in the end... It wouldnt be a choice we would make again...

Is that so hard to say?!?! :mindblown: They would do anything to wage war and make money for their war contracting buddies.
 

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"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. Biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. This confrontation is willed by god, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a new age begins" - his advisor on the Middle East.

Should be in a fukking mental asylum :snoop:

It's honestly terrifying. If McCain or Money Mitt were elected I would have went abroad.
 

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Pope Francis said Monday that “many powerful people don’t want peace because they live off war”. “Some powerful people make their living with the production of arms. It’s the industry of death”.


Submitted by WorkerAnt#11, on May 11th, 2015


Pope says many powerful people don’t want peace

The “industry of death” exists in the world as many people in power live off war, Pope Francis told Italian schoolkids in the Vatican on Monday.

“Many powerful people don’t want peace because they live off war,” the Pontiff said as he met with pupils from Rome’s primary schools in the Nervi Audience Hall.

Talking to children during the audience organized by the Peace Factory Foundation, he explained that every war has the arms industry behind it.

“This is serious. Some powerful people make their living with the production of arms and sell them to one country for them to use against another country,” the Pope was cited by AGI news agency as saying.

The head of the Catholic Church labeled the arms trade “the industry of death, the greed that harms us all, the desire to have more money.”

“The economic system orbits around money and not men, women,” he told 7,000 kids present at the audience.


Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/pope...ning-the-catholic-church/#1vlZ8oEVItAilCT9.99
 

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And see it's that stupidity of these republicans and democrats which blow my mind...

How about saying in hindsight knowing what we know now. it was a grave mistake going to war, getting our soldiers killed without much payoff in the end... It wouldnt be a choice we would make again...

Is that so hard to say?!?! :mindblown: They would do anything to wage war and make money for their war contracting buddies.

Republicans can't say this. At that point they would no longer be a republican and would completely be isolated from the rest of the party. They might still continue to call themselves republicans, and they might still have that R attached to their name, but they would not be able to run on the republican ticket.

….but let's split the vote for them :heh:
 

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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World ...
www.theguardian.com › World › Second world war
The Guardian
Sep 25, 2004 - While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade.

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How the Bush family made
its fortune from the Nazis


Posted by Robert Lederman
mailto:robert.lederman@worldnet.att.net
February 9, 2002

Note: This article's author, John Loftus, is a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the Jews, both of which have extensive material on the Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/bush_nazis.html
 

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Republicans can't say this. At that point they would no longer be a republican and would completely be isolated from the rest of the party. They might still continue to call themselves republicans, and they might still have that R attached to their name, but they would not be able to run on the republican ticket.

….but let's split the vote for them :heh:

:russ:
 

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We risked American lives and money over a stupid war. We shouldn't even invaded Iraq in the first place, now we have ISIS terrorizing Iraq and Syria.

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But anyway... why wouldn't he say that. Dude's family probably made serious cash off of this whole thing.
Hell if I could go back in time to 9/11. I would have figured out some way to become a private contractor. :eat:
 

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I hope before I die we have level headed candidates from both (:shaq2:) parties to choose from.
 
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