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IMO the lack of production and offensive challenges this year with all of the injuries and rookies is catching up to Brady. The only WR that isn't new is Edelman and he seems to be in sync with him. Now with Gronk back and maybe Amendola next week, I think his accuracy will improve and the frustrations will disappear. You can't keep Brady down forever.

The Pats issue IMO is the OL. It don't matter who's out there for him catching the ball if there's no pocket for him to slide around:yeshrug:
 

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The Pats issue IMO is the OL. It don't matter who's out there for him catching the ball if there's no pocket for him to slide around:yeshrug:
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Stop it.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/10/09/ranking-the-2013-offensive-lines-first-quarter/4/

Dan Connolly is the only unsteady one.

They're a top 5 offensive line. I've been shouting the pressure Brady up the middle steez for the past five years. Ever since his knee injury, if he has to move at all and throw on the move he's horrible.
 

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:comeon:

Stop it.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/10/09/ranking-the-2013-offensive-lines-first-quarter/4/

Dan Connolly is the only unsteady one.

They're a top 5 offensive line. I've been shouting the pressure Brady up the middle steez for the past five years. Ever since his knee injury, if he has to move at all and throw on the move he's horrible.

Breh, when Brady gets pressured, he doesn't play well. That's with all QBs, not just Brady though. Especially non-mobile QBs.

The Pats OL got eaten up by the Jets DL, same with the Bengals DL. Brady's been sacked a shytload of times the past few games. How can you not say it's not their OL that's the main issue?:patrice:

When he get's time, he still hits his guys. He proved that against the Saints when they only rushed 3, and against the Falcons when they couldn't get pressure:manny:

Why the Pats call passing plays with Brady under center is beyond me. He's always under duress when he's gotta take a seven step drop. They should just have him play shotgun so he can step in immediately and get rid of the ball.
 

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Yeah, but why does he continue to show up his teammates on the sideline and after the play?

That fiery competitive spirit. :heh:

Seriously, I've always been a Brady fan but the shyt he's pulling this year with these WRs is a joke. He legit got mad at Gronk becuz the sun got in his eye. :skip:

Ain't shyt you can do about that bruh. :heh:
 

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Why is your QB spazzing out at his WR when he over and under throws them?

If I was a Pats WR I would call him out.
Number 1, Brady did not spaz out the last game when he made mistakes and every QB does it, cut this bullshyt. Number 2, in the Patriots offense when Brady fukks up he always blames himself but 98% of the time it's not his fault. Even his INT last week Edelman admitted was his fault for running the wrong route. 98% of the time Brady misses a pass it's because the WR is not where they are supposed to be. But casual fans don't know this. Brady has had an off year overall, but anyone pretending that this is a regular thing is full of shyt.

The second Brady can't make a clean throw and is force to move a fraction left or right to make a throw, he's off target.

You've said this for years, and then I always refute it and you reach a point of not being able to support it. You then wait until the next instant to make the same argument again...

You're so convinced of your argument that you don't realize that REN is saying that you're over here saying Brady can't throw deep while he has no deep threats. First off, that is wrong because Boyce and Dobson are deep threats if they ever get it together. Second, you still did not explain how Tom Brady, who has had a deep threat for literally two seasons of his career can't throw the deep ball. You're just stubborn. It's not his specialty but to say he's awful at it like you usually do is just hyperbole. You like to sit here and pretend that he wasn't throwing bombs to Gaffney and Stallworth too. Moss of Brady's passes to Moss were right in his hands I.E. the go ahead throw for the record.


once just once i want to see this brat behind a bad oline. tom brady has an elite oline his entire career, it's amazing.

It's like you guys don't watch football and try to confirm shyt to yourselves. Tom Brady is this winning pretty boy so you dudes stay trying to blow up everything he does and it's borderline pitiful. It's like you ignore all the games Brady gets knocked on his ass and then wait for games where he stands tall in the pocket and you go :yes:. Tom Brady's first year starting he was sacked something like 41 times en route to the SB, are you guys fukking kidding me... He was sacked 27 times last year and has been sacked 20 times this year ALREADY. He has been sacked more time per game this year than either Romo or Rodgers. He has been sacked more times per game this year than Romo was last year.

Don't pretend to be impartial or that you know anything about the Patriots. His first year back from injury his O-line caused him to have fractured ribs and he proceeded to still win the division and throw for well over 4,000 yards. Tom Brady's 07' O-line gave up like 20 more sacks the following year when he wasn't QB because they didn't have him directing attention and getting the ball out in 1.5 seconds. They literally went from giving up 1.5 sacks per game to 3 sacks per game.


@Listen is the only one making sense. The fact of the matter is this, the Patriots receivers lead the NFL in drops. Tom Brady is holding the ball more than ever because he's not sure that they will be where he wants them to. Further, he is forcing passes and getting antsy because he's been getting pressure from up in front of him all year. Part of the problem is that the O-line has had to block longer than usual this year. The WRs don't get open as fast. This exposes how mediocre Wendell has been even more.

We've also had injuries on the O-line so subs have been coming in. The fact of the matter is this, the Patriots offense is based on timing and having the same mind as Brady. His greatness was in the fact that the WR turns around and the ball is already there. Now he's waiting for them to get open instead of throwing them open. It's why Deion Branch came back from being flabby in SEA and looked good again in NE that first year. He and Brady have that type of chemistry. Dobson is physically superior to Branch but doesn't run routes and read the defense the same way. AHern not having all the O yet during his first year with the Pats was hidden by Welker and Branch. There is no one to hide Thompkins and Dobson on third down. Brady's deep problem is that he's only accurate with it when he goes through the motion deliberately and steps into it, when he tries to release fast like Rodgers...he overthrows and he's been trying to do that all year. He's been off on deep balls all year, and it's cause for concern but to pretend that he is equally or mostly to blame for this offense is ridiculous.
 
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