UpAndComing
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26:10 -- Topic begins
31: 15 -- Joe starts spitting that real
No one has eloquently explained what exactly went wrong in NY Hip Hop until Joe. Which also explains why NY Hip Hop is slowly on the rise again
Joe Budden perfectly explains how NY hip hop fell in the early 2000s
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26:10 -- Topic begins
31: 15 -- Joe starts spitting that real
No one has eloquently explained what exactly went wrong in NY Hip Hop until Joe. Which also explains why NY Hip Hop is slowly on the rise again
Nah I agree with Maino...that Ebro and the OGs of new York not vouching for the 5 boros played a part
Like he said New York still had movements during 50 Cent debut that was popping...
Dipset...Rocafella. Dblock..and even Nas was still hitting ...
But once your most powerful local Radio infrastructure Hot 97 falls back and down the line Power 105 follow suit..it's a wrap
Joe is basically speculating ...to pinpoint 50 as the sole culprit
That's just a conspiracy theory that's been around for decades first spun by Fabolous
Like he said New York still had movements during 50 Cent debut that was popping...
Dipset...Rocafella. Dblock..and even Nas was still hitting ...
But once your most powerful local Radio infrastructure Hot 97 falls back and down the line Power 105 follow suit..it's a wrap
Joe is basically speculating ...to pinpoint 50 as the sole culprit
That's just a conspiracy theory that's been around for decades first spun by Fabolous
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It's not that deep. Jay-Z retired and broke up Roc-a-Fella and 50 Cent was beefing with other NYC rappers and G-Unit never embraced NYC like that. When you had two of BIGGEST NYC ACTS remove themselves, the rest is going to scramble. You cannot necessarily blame it on NY radio. They're there to get marketing spins towards what's consistently hot at the time. NYC was in a dry spell to the point that radio wasn't interested into young acts and a lot of New York rappers weren't getting signed or keep getting their albums pushed back because the old New York rappers who fail to realize their time of shine long overdue wasn't going to let go and put on their protege's But overall it boiled down to 50 Cent and Jay-Z. Had 50 Cent didn't burn so many bridges the way he did (because the FANS were obsessed with dude at the period) and didn't just go after not just Ja Rule who was once was one of the biggest New York artists, but also Nas, Fat Joe, Jadakiss and so many others (mind you those were true STABLES of hip hop)... the fans would of still fukked with him heavy and NYC still would of thrived. 50 Cent's following was bananas at the time to where if he didn't fukk with another rapper, then his FANBASE didn't which was damn near everyone. Then had Jay-Z not "retired" and broke up Roc-a-Fella's dynasty, more acts would of been heard from there. The only other group that actually survived was DIPSET.
Killigraphy
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Speculation and conspiracy theory from Joe....nothing new here. Dustheads always prattling.
But sure, lets acts like the Blueprine 1 and 2 didn't come out in the early 2000's...this dude has to be smoking the harshest crack.
Or lets conveniently ignore Stillmatic....
I could go on, but Joe is just full of too much shyt to even keep going.
But sure, lets acts like the Blueprine 1 and 2 didn't come out in the early 2000's...this dude has to be smoking the harshest crack.
Or lets conveniently ignore Stillmatic....
I could go on, but Joe is just full of too much shyt to even keep going.
UpAndComing
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I don't think you watched the video. He said after 2003
Joe with his flawed logic again . Lol
The guy who was irrelevant until he started stalking his bytch for YouTube likes .
The guy who was irrelevant until he started stalking his bytch for YouTube likes .
Killigraphy
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The Black Album - triple plat
Kiss of Death - Plat - number one on the billboard
Street Dreams - Plat
All got radio play and charted.
Pls don't quote me if you don't do the research.
UpAndComing
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None of these artists you named were new artists in 2003
Which is what Joe Budden alluded to, and main point of the conversation. New NY artists that dropped in 2003 and beyond
Like I said WATCH THE VIDEO and stop getting emotional
exactly...and it also begs the question ...WHAT'S JOE BUDDENS excuse for his own career demise?
surely can't be 50 cent
blackballing his "mood music" mixtape series from blowing upJoe Buddens is just as much a CULPRIT in the "assasination of nyc hip hop"
considering he spent more time empowering the thots to have CAREERS in HIP HOP CULTURE....
tahiry ....somaya reece...gloria valez...and cyn santana...and even defended Cardi b. as being his "homie" that he's proud of
this fukkbwoi basically help usher in the THOT RAP genre cause all those HOES came thru via the LOVE & HIP HOP BRAND....
so the thread title should read........JOE BUDDENS KILLED NYC HIP HOP but uses 50 CENT as an ALIBI
Dipset got bigger after NYC.
People already hated NYC for how isolated and downtalking they were towards every other region.
New Orleans and the south had already taken over, before it even had the torch passed to atlanta.
People already hated NYC for how isolated and downtalking they were towards every other region.
New Orleans and the south had already taken over, before it even had the torch passed to atlanta.
The exact conversation taking place in this thread is what really killed NY hip hop.
Y’all nikkas got too focused on bullshyt stats.
Thank Jay and 50 for that.
Ain’t nobody talking about the change in the actual music.
Y’all nikkas got too focused on bullshyt stats.
Thank Jay and 50 for that.
Ain’t nobody talking about the change in the actual music.
how???
How what?
How is 50 and Jay repsonsible for killing NYC hip hop by simply talking about stats (numbers)?!!