tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Perry Fewell won Superbowls with them as DC.They didn't even have a full-time Black QB until this season for like 5 games
I doubt they've even had a Black coordinator
John Harbaugh to the NY Giants…I Guess
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Nigerianwonder
Superstar
He couldn't win with Lamar. Definitely not winning with Dart (Who I don't think will be that good when all is said and done). He is a good coach but his best days are behind him. Same thing with Tomlin.
Why not? Without Looking at their upcoming free agents, They have 7 draft picks including the 5th overall, They have better Receivers(Nabbers, Robinson, Slayton) , Good tight end Theo johnson and their running backs are similar to the Patriots. Their O line is better than the pats O line. Defensively Their front 7 is better than NE, Patriots secondary is better than the Giants. They'll also have a very favorable schedule in 2026.
Now get Mike McDaniel to be the OC and the Giants can make noise.
Clark Wayne
Superstar
He brought Monken with him as the OC. I wonder if he brings Orr.
If he doesn’t that’s very telling and admitting it was a mistake in the first place. His ego might get in the way though.
If he doesn’t that’s very telling and admitting it was a mistake in the first place. His ego might get in the way though.
He went to the Giants. Not the Jets or Titans breh breh.He likes a challenge. I can respect it
Copy Ninja
Superstar
He won with Flacco.
And before you say it was the defense, the Ravens offense scored 24, 38, 28, and 34 points. Flacco went on a generational run and outdueled Peyton and Brady both on the road on the way to winning SB MVP.
Had me in tears at some of the answers to letting Harbaugh go. 
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Bboystyle
FIRE MATT LAFLEUR
He couldnt win with Lamar and Henry. The fukk he gonna do with a Dart
And before people bring up Flacco, thats was 14 years ago. Harbaugh been dead since. Giants should of hired an up and coming coach like other losing ass teams have that turned it around. Harbaugh has had a bad playoff run in recent times.
And before people bring up Flacco, thats was 14 years ago. Harbaugh been dead since. Giants should of hired an up and coming coach like other losing ass teams have that turned it around. Harbaugh has had a bad playoff run in recent times.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
As soon as he takes 0 accountability for abandoning the run and/or going prevent defense in a close game and tells the press “it was a heavyweight fight and they just made a few more plays than we did and that’s how it goes sometimes” I might laugh, but it’ll get real old real fast and I’m gonna feel real bad for giants fan. His press conferences are very much like what Brian Cashman does where he talks in circles and either lies or tries to subtly throw someone else under the bus. That heavyweight fight line is his equivalent of “the playoffs are a crapshoot”.
Meanwhile he still defers entirely to his coordinators on both sides of the ball. I’ll be absolutely shocked if he learns anything from his mistakes over the last 13 years where it was usually only the giants competing with him for most blown 4th quarter leads. By year 3 I expect giants fans to be spinning on the floor like Homer Simpson begging ownership to cut him loose.
There was so much fluke stuff that happened along the way to that Super Bowl that couldn’t be replicated though, not to mention his catastrophic meltdowns in 2010 and 2011 that helped cost them those postseason runs with his inability to coach with a lead or manage the clock & his timeouts.
The players staged a mutiny against him in October of that season when he tried to get on them after a loss in Houston where in 2 weeks Ray Lewis had torn his tricep, Ladarius Webb tore his ACL, and in his first game back from an Achilles tear, Terrell Suggs tore his bicep.
He was very publicly against the firing of Cam Cameron even after it finally happened.
Flacco threw a check down on 4th and 29 against the chargers with the game on the line. They convert that play about as many times as I’d strike out Tony Gwynn on 1000 AB’s.
In the divisional round vs Denver they had a ton of fluke stuff go their way too. Brandon Stokely juggled a pass into the hands of Corey Graham for a pick 6, Matt Prater swung his foot into the dirt a good 6 inches in front of the ball to badly miss a field goal right before the half, which set the ravens up for the game tying score right before halftime. Holliday’s kick return touchdown to open the 2nd half could’ve easily been one to make it a 17 point game had Prater not done that. Then there was Rahim Moore turning into Nelson Cruz in game 6 of the World Series on that deep ball to Jacoby Jones. Then Denver with 2 timeouts and 40-45 seconds left didn’t even try to go for the win, instead settling for overtime.
His team also came 1 play away from blowing a 28-6 lead in the Super Bowl. They had a 28-6 lead and possession of the ball after a 49ers punt and still found themselves backed up to their own 5 having been outscored by 17 following that possession. That’s a massive coaching failure that the game was even close after they had the ball with a 22 point lead in the 2nd half.
After Ray Lewis retired and he was able to force Ed Reed out of town for co leading the mutiny, Harbaugh missed the playoffs 4 times in 5 years with week 17 in 2014 having a fist full of tiebreakers go his way being all that kept him from missing the playoffs 5 years straight after that.
His team was 4-5 and going nowhere fast when Lamar got the chance to start in 2018 as well.
Most ravens fans had wanted him gone somewhere between 8-10+ years for a reason.
Meh
The Harbaugh brothers are
at this point
The Harbaugh brothers are
at this point
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
John was always like that. By his 2nd season in Baltimore the ravens were 8-7 going into week 17 and leading the league in penalties. By his 3rd year they led the league in blown 4th quarter leads and he was trashing the fans who wanted Cam fired. In his 4th year he left his final timeout in his pocket and rushed the kicking unit out to avoid a delay of game penalty which would’ve meant trying a 37 yard kick to tie the afc title game. His hurried kicker shanked the 32 yard attempt. They were on the road for that game because they lost 4 separate games to non playoff teams that year, all following huge wins against legit contenders. By year 5 he was dealing with a mutiny and publicly opposed to Bisciotti firing Cam in November of that year. From 2014-17 I think his defenses led the league in blown 4th quarter leads twice. It’ll never make sense to me why he was always able to have such ugly finishes where his team played so sloppy and he never faced any heat for it until his gameplan for the 2023 afc title game in his 16th season on their sidelines.Meh
The Harbaugh brothers are
You're not wrong but the bar is low, since that 2011 SB it's been 14 seasons, 3 above .500, 1 playoff win. Probably the darkest stretch in Giants history.He couldnt win with Lamar and Henry. The fukk he gonna do with a Dart
And before people bring up Flacco, thats was 14 years ago. Harbaugh been dead since. Giants should of hired an up and coming coach like other losing ass teams have that turned it around. Harbaugh has had a bad playoff run in recent times.
Becoming a perennial playoff loser would be a massive upgrade for them.
OGBobbyJohnson
Veteran
Hire Greg Roman as the OC
