John Paulson donates $400 mil to Harvard...People are upset?

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http://www.businessinsider.com/defense-of-john-paulson-harvard-donation-2015-6

On Wednesday, hedge fund manager John Paulson donated $400 million to endow Harvard's School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, making it the largest gift in the school's history.

Soon after the news broke, the internet exploded with criticism.


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  • T. Boone Pickens, BP Capital: "I was amused by the criticism. My first thought was, hey, wait a minute, get the critic up there and ask, 'Wait a minute, pal, how much have you given?' You may find out he has given, but I have a hard time imagining anyone being critical of a charitable gift."
  • Daniel Loeb, Third Point LLC: "Would they criticize him if he just sat on his wealth and 'compounded it' like certain others? It's a fabulous and impactful gift to a great institution. It will lead to discovery, life-saving innovation in biomedical engineering, opportunity, job growth and increased competitiveness in the United States. I don’t see why Malcolm Gladwell or others have a problem with that."
  • Bill Ackman, Pershing Square Capital (Harvard/HBS alum): "Here's how I think about it: This money will go to help Harvard build one of the great engineering and science schools in the country. What comes out of that? Great research in biomedicine, software and other sciences, and a large number of talented graduates that will help improve the world. The people who go there aren't likely wealthy people. I'm sure a chunk of his money is going toward scholarships for graduates who will create the next great healthcare or software company that will employee hundreds of thousands of people. The leverage of helping build a great science and engineering school has global implications in a hugely positive way. This is not about subsidizing rich people."
  • Anthony Scaramucci, SkyBridge Capital: "Malcolm Gladwell must have sustained some sort of head injury that has lowered his high IQ. That could be the only thing that could explain his tweets. We are very lucky to have people like John Paulson in our society. I would be long a John Paulson and short a basket of Gladwells."
  • Hedge fund manager 1: "Putting capital in the hands of our brightest people has often had great multiplier effects for society as a whole. Think wartime innovations (Penicillin, radar, etc), the Royal Academy during the Enlightenment (Newton, etc.), the Medici (Leonardo da Vinci)."
  • Hedge fund manager 2: "Who the f--- can criticize a guy who donated $400 million to his alma mater?!"... What's to criticize? Extremely generous and he is to be applauded. But maybe I'm an idiot. The inmates are running the asylum."
  • Hedge fund manager 3: "It's his money, he doesn't have to give it away at all if he doesn't want. Here, he is plainly helping others and society. I can’t imagine criticizing that."
  • Marc Andreessen tweeted: "America's research universities are our wellspring of scientific and economic growth. Gifts to them are moral virtues, full stop"

I 100% agree with all the hedge fund managers. Paulson is free to do with his money whatever he pleases. He's giving back to his alma mater, Harvard. Harvard has a proven track record of innovation. Not only do I think Paulson is right in his donation but I think its also a very wise move for the future of Harvard engineering.


What are your thoughts? I know you guys like to take other peoples money and tell them what to do with it.
 

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What should I expect a bunch of hedge fund managers to say?

I'm sure Harvard having a new engineering school will trickle down and benefit the wealthy and society in general but it's not like Harvard couldn't have it created it on their own.


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http://www.businessinsider.com/defense-of-john-paulson-harvard-donation-2015-6

On Wednesday, hedge fund manager John Paulson donated $400 million to endow Harvard's School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, making it the largest gift in the school's history.

Soon after the news broke, the internet exploded with criticism.


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I 100% agree with all the hedge fund managers. Paulson is free to do with his money whatever he pleases. He's giving back to his alma mater, Harvard. Harvard has a proven track record of innovation. Not only do I think Paulson is right in his donation but I think its also a very wise move for the future of Harvard engineering.


What are your thoughts? I know you guys like to take other peoples money and tell them what to do with it.
Well when you start from that point, what type of discussion do you plan on having?

Anyhow, here's the counter

Billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson’s decision to donate $400 million to Harvard University to support the School of Engineering and Applied Sciences—the largest donation the university has ever received—struck many people, including me, as strange. After all, Harvard’s endowment already has more than $36 billion simmering away and quietly generating giant returns.

It’s hard to argue that Harvard needs this money. After all, its investment returns of more than 15% between 2013 and 2014 (actuallyconsidered somewhat subpar for Harvard) amounted to somewhere around $5 billion. In other words, all Harvard had to do was sit still and manage its money, and it got a payout last year roughly the size of 12 gifts from Paulson.

As for Paulson, why is it any of my business what a rich guy does with his money? Many people would say it isn’t. Among them is influential venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, who seems to think any donation to a research institution is an unmitigated good thing.

Me, I don’t know from moral virtue. So it’s a good thing this isn’t a morality play. This is about policy. Maybe Paulson’s gift wouldn’t be any of my business, if I and other US taxpayers weren’t subsidizing it with tax breaks. (Indeed, we are.)

But truth be told, I think this is also about more than tax policy. Paulson’s donation to such a well-heeled institution also says a lot about what’s wrong with the structure of the US economy.

Since the surprise success of French economist Thomas Piketty’s Capital in the 21st Century last year, it’s become widely accepted that rising income inequality in the US is a fact. And one of the cornerstones of Piketty’s arguments is based on the massive growth of US college endowments.

Because detailed public data on large private fortunes is hard to come by, Piketty examined the performance of college endowments—which must report their performance. After studying the returns of university endowments, Piketty finds simply, “the greater the endowment, the greater the return.” Between 1990 and 2010, investment returns for Harvard, Yale, and Princeton—real returns minus the costs of money management—averaged 10.2%, twice as much as smaller endowments. He uses these results to buttress his now famous argument that the rate of return on capital tends to outpace overall growth, leading to a concentration of wealth among those with large fortunes.

How do they do it? Well, Piketty argues in part that it’s because they can pay for better-quality investment management. But in practice, what that seems to mean is that the largest college endowment funds more often invest in “alternative investment strategies.” Piketty writes: “The available data, which are both public and extremely detailed, show unambiguously that it is these alternative investment strategies that enable the very largest endowments to obtain real returns of close to 10% a year, while the smaller endowments must make do with 5%.”

Alternative investments include things like hedge funds, venture capital, and private equity. So, large endowments are very much in the interest of people who are involved in these industries. For the record, a spokeswoman for Paulson says the firm runs no money for Harvard Management Company. (I also put in a request to Andreessen Horowitz to see if they manage money on behalf of Harvard Management Company, but I haven’t gotten an answer.)

In any case, the point isn’t that there’s anything improper going on. Rather, the idea is that the Paulson donation offers a unique chance to look at what’s happening to the large chunks of capital clustering at the top of the US income distribution.

Let’s think about it. A billionaire is socking away tons of cash. (It’s not like Paulson is a miser, he’s a well-known art collector for example.) But it’s actually really, really hard to spend all the money he’s made. He reportedly earned roughly $2.3 billion in 2013 alone, and is worth more than $11 billion, according to Forbes.

And so he’s making a donation—a tax-advantaged one that burnishes his connection to one of the wealthiest, most well-connected institutions on Earth. But still a donation. The money likely won’t be spent instantaneously. Instead, it’ll be channeled back into the kinds of investment funds run by people like Paulson, whose expensive services drive both the fast capital accumulation that results in income inequality and the outsized incomes that also result in—wait for it—income inequality. Wash, rinse, and repeat until society is sufficiently stratified.

Well, what about the kids at Harvard? It’s true that poor kids that can get into Harvard can go for free, which is great. (Roughly 20% of undergrads at Harvard College do, officials say.) But Harvard already has the money to make that happen. Meanwhile, there are plenty of funding struggles to be found at slightly less august institutions all around the country.

The bottom line? It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the Paulson donation to Harvard captures the essence of the way American inequality operates. It siphons many billions of dollars out of the operational economy and directs them to a rarified world of finance, influence, and affluence.

There is something we can do about it. There’s always the option of imposing an excess endowment tax, for example. But given the aforementioned amount of money and influence involved, I wouldn’t advise holding your breath.
 

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Well when you start from that point, what type of discussion do you plan on having?

Anyhow, here's the counter

Just a little :troll: to get the discussion going.

Your rebuttle article is a bit non-sensical. It states large endowments earn 10% while small ones earn 5%. That has nothing to do with the principal amount. ROI is still ROI regardless of principal. 5% return on 10k or 5% return on 20k is still a 5% return. All they're disguising by saying big funds do better is the fact the small funds are not as successfully managed, which would make sense since their not Harvard grads etc.

it should have given it to someone who actually needed it, such as myself. hell, i would have gladly taken $100 million and let him give the remaining $300 million to Harvard

20% of Harvard students can't afford the school and the endowment fund allows them to go for free so someone is truly benefitting from their large endowment.
 

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Just a little :troll: to get the discussion going.

Your rebuttle article is a bit non-sensical. It states large endowments earn 10% while small ones earn 5%. That has nothing to do with the principal amount. ROI is still ROI regardless of principal. 5% return on 10k or 5% return on 20k is still a 5% return. All they're disguising by saying big funds do better is the fact the small funds are not as successfully managed, which would make sense since their not Harvard grads etc.



20% of Harvard students can't afford the school and the endowment fund allows them to go for free so someone is truly benefitting from their large endowment.
At the end of the day, he can spend his money however he wants, but it's easy to see why people would be cynical.

There are all sorts of reasons why people make donations. It can make them happy, for one thing, generating the “warm glow” linked to helping a good cause, as described by economist James Andreoni in the late 1980s. High-profile donations can be a great way to signal status. Oh, and in the US there are giant tax benefits tied to such donations, at both the federal and state level.

But as monster endowments continue to grow, policymakers need to reconsider whether this makes any sense.

Some tax exemptions for charitable giving are probably a good thing. But unlike private foundations, under US law doesn’t require public charities—a group that includes churches as well as colleges and universities—to meet a minimum payout ratio in order to qualify for tax exemptions. The argument has been made, including by Harvard Law School’s own Daniel Halperin, that this tax treatment could actually play a role in incentivizing the accumulation of large endowments. The thing is, this is not a desirable outcome.

The reason the government gives tax exemptions is that it wants the money raised to be spent on a public good, not stockpiled in a massive piggy bank where the money mainly is steered into investments specifically intended to help the fundraising institution earn even more money. If the money isn’t being spent any time soon, why should taxpayers continue to subsidize these donations?

Finding a solution to this problem would be tricky. Requiring a minimum level of payouts, for example, would be too blunt an instrument, limiting the flexibility endowments need to manage in bad years for investment returns. But it finally might be time to at least consider a tax on “excess endowments,” as some experts have suggested.
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$400 million to an ALREADY wealthy top tier school though... :dahell: He's gonna use this as a Tax write off. they always do...:comeon:
 
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