Jordan Neely, Tucker Carlson, and ‘rooting for the mob’ as America unravels

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Once upon a time in America, Jordan Neely was that quintessential New York character who acted out life’s mixtures of dreams and disappointments on that giant stage underneath Broadway: the city’s subway system and its 2.4 million bedraggled commuters. As a young 20-something a decade ago, Neeley’s Michael Jackson’s shtick — moonwalking in the Thriller-era military jacket, “Billie Jean” blasting from a boom box as an express train barreled under Manhattan — brought bemused smiles and an occasional whoop from jaded straphangers.

But Neely was 30 now, still calling the subway his home as the music faded in a city where, as his idol once sang, “there’s demons closin’ in from every side.” A Queens subway rider named Emon Thompson told the New York Times she saw Neely a couple of times recently as she took the Manhattan-bound F train, and he seemed highly distraught. She recalled: “He said he needed help and kept repeating the words, ‘food, shelter, I need a job.’ ... I could tell he was at his wit’s end, you know?”

That end came quickly on Monday afternoon. Aboard a crowded F train underneath the East Village, Neely reportedly declared: “‘I don’t have food, I don’t have a drink, I’m fed up ... I don’t mind going to jail and getting life in prison. I’m ready to die.” The rider who related those words to the Times, freelance journalist Juan Alberto Vazquez, filmed the shocking moments that came next after Neely reportedly threw his black coat onto the floor.

A young man, unnamed but described as a 24-year-old ex-Marine, grabbed Neely and — possibly drawing on his military training — placed Neely in a choke hold. The homeless man could not speak but flailed his arms, and another passenger intervened — not to free Neely, but to hold him down. Other passengers watched. Vazquez later posted a video that runs for four-and-a-half minutes — although he claimed the encounter lasted as long as 15 minutes, which, if true, would be nearly six minutes longer than when Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin infamously suffocated George Floyd with his knee.

Neely lapsed into unconsciousness, and the EMT responders who arrived at the Broadway-Lafayette station were unable to revive him. On Wednesday, the New York medical examiner stated what was clear to anyone who watched the video: Neeley’s death was a homicide. And yet the cops of Mayor Eric Adams’ “tough-on-crime” New York City questioned Neely’s killer and then allowed him to go home and sleep in his own bed.

Police haven’t released the name of the man who committed this homicide, but then they haven’t officially released Neely’s name, either, in this incident that much of official New York seems to have hoped would fade away, like music from a boom box. But too many outraged Americans are already saying his name — Jordan Neely — and wondering why this man, whose behavior was clearly disturbing but had done nothing violent, was summarily executed as no one intervened to help.

New York police officers administer CPR to a man at the scene where a fight was reported on a subway train, Monday, May 1, 2023, in New York. A man suffering an apparent mental health episode aboard a New York City subway died on Monday after being placed in a headlock by a fellow rider, according to police officials and video of the encounter. Jordan Neely, 30, was shouting and pacing aboard an F train in Manhattan, witnesses and police said, when he was taken to the floor by another passenger.

New York police officers administer CPR to a man at the scene where a fight was reported on a subway train, Monday, May 1, 2023, in New York. A man suffering an apparent mental health episode aboard a New York City subway died on Monday after being placed in a headlock by a fellow rider, according to police officials and video of the encounter. Jordan Neely, 30, was shouting and pacing aboard an F train in Manhattan, witnesses and police said, when he was taken to the floor by another passenger.Read morePaul Martinka / AP
In spite of initial silence and inaction, and then the predictable twisting by politicians and the media into their prewritten narratives about urban homelessness and crime, Jordan Neely is fast becoming one of those names — like Emmett Till or Kitty Genovese or Bernhard Goetz or Trayvon Martin or George Floyd. In some way, these names become shorthand for how we as Americans treat our fellow Americans, tainted by all the toxic ingredients of prejudice, fear, and misguided rage that drag us down as a society, again and again.
 

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There are many, many layers to the murder — yes, murder because I’m not sure what else to call the strangulation homicide of a nonviolent human being — of Jordan Neely. These include the utter failure of a police-state approach to a mental health crisis not just in New York but in American cities writ large, and New York’s two election cycles of over-the-top fearmongering around subway crime (which, despite some horrific incidents, is declining from its pandemic spike).

The highly charged rhetoric from the likes of Adams, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, or her 2022 opponent Lee Zeldin, amplified by “if it bleeds, it leads” TV news and sensationalistic crime coveragenot only in the tabloids but the allegedly staid New York Times, undoubtedly prejudiced “the jury pool” of subway riders who sentenced Neely to death. And there is a lot that can and will be said about the increased criminalization of homelessness, amid a housing crisis, exacerbated by Adams, who has dispatched a mini-army to rip down tents and who has flooded the subways with so many officers that F train civilians apparently felt deputized. Twitter trolls are making much of Neely’s reported more than 40 arrests, but that feels more a comment on the morality of the arrestors — in a city that responds to mental health crises with guns instead of aid — than the arrested.

But here’s what’s even scarier about the death of Jordan Neely: the rapid downward spiral of how Americans are judging and treating the people we don’t know, or the ones we pretend to know. A civil society truly depends on the kindness of strangers, and as our pandemic-fueled isolation rots into dangerous paranoia, with our politics at an 1861 level of distrust, we see the people around us not as neighbors but as targets for our rage. At the doorbell. In the parking lot. At the property line. And now in the underground melting pot of New York City.

Jordan Neely supporters during a vigil in the Broadway-Lafayette subway station on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, in Manhattan, New York.

Jordan Neely supporters during a vigil in the Broadway-Lafayette subway station on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, in Manhattan, New York.Read moreBarry Williams / MCT
That’s why, when I thought about Jordan Neely, I also thought about Tucker Carlson, the man who’d been America’s most-watched cable TV news pundit before he was abruptly fired in the swirl of controversy around his employer, Fox News. At almost the same moment that Neely was fighting for his last breath, Carlson’s enemies were leaking one of his texts to offer some insight into the poisoned mind that came into a few million living rooms at 8 p.m. to make sure that angry white Americans channeled their rage onto that night’s target, whether it was refugees or transgender people or the unhoused.

In what Carlson thought would remain a private text to a Fox producer after watching Trump supporters beat up a left-wing protester in late 2020, he wrote: “Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: This isn’t good for me.”
 

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The text made news for its obvious racism, but there’s even more going on here. Whatever qualms Carlson expressed at the end, the reality is that he thrived in 2020s America as the TV voice for millions because he made “rooting for the mob” socially acceptable, telling his viewers that it’s OK if you “wanted them to hurt the kid.” That poison is permeating our society, even in a blue-city subway car where probably few had ever watched Fox News. In New York’s left-coast, allegedly liberal twin city of San Francisco, the city’s ex-fire commissioner was caught on videospraying mace on homeless people minding their own business. It’s past time to ask ourselves, “Is this what we’re coming to?” It’s time to start asking, “Why?”

Meanwhile, for folks still clinging to a conscience, it’s hard to say what is more stunning: the mob mentality that strangled Neely to death, or the cops and the mayor and the governor and the New York Times editorswho have gone completely numb to just how unspeakably awful that was.

We can’t bring Jordan Neely back, but we don’t have to live like this. The delayed justice of treating a homicide as a crime when the victim was a Black, homeless man would be a start. But we can also start taking seriously the handful of candidates — in elections as early as this month — who believe a mental health crisis in our cities means spending money on skilled responders and not more overtime for armed and poorly trained cops.

America’s newsrooms can also start asking themselves whether it’s the pursuit of clicks or just laziness that leads to printing stereotypes and police lies about homelessness or crime, rather than investigating the truth. And maybe it would help if all of us took a second to ask ourselves what we would have done on that F train on Monday. Even Tucker Carlson knew rooting for the mob “isn’t good for me.” But what it’s doing to America is much, much worse.
 

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Being poor and homeless is criminalized in this country.

Yeah.

A lot of people are bringing up his criminal history as if that meant he deserved to die.

The right go on and on about "law and order" but they don't believe in law and order. They believe in law and order for themselves, but mob violence when dealing with people they perceive to be lesser than them.
 

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The most important murder this year.



Not meant to be insensitive and I know that’s a wild way to phrase it.

For a public execution to happen in that way and seemingly no repercussions. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of America or just NYC.

The country has been going in the wrong direction. But I'm not sure if the country as a whole has gotten THERE yet.

Politicians keep talking about mental illness, but seemingly are unwilling to do anything about it. A course correction is needed now than sooner.
 

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For a public execution to happen in that way and seemingly no repercussions. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of America or just NYC.

The country has been going in the wrong direction. But I'm not sure if the country as a whole has gotten THERE yet.

Politicians keep talking about mental illness, but seemingly are unwilling to do anything about it. A course correction is needed now than sooner.

The same incident could have happened in San Francisco or DC or any other city that operates a playground for the wealthy. We’re seeing how the stratification of society along class lines is more consequential than the standard red v blue that sucks up all the media attention.

If I was writing a cynical movie about BLM and social justice this would probably be the last scene; white america finally cutting out the middle man and shooting people who knock on doors, pull into driveways and choking undesirables on the subway.
 

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San Diego has a raging homelessness/meth/fentanyl crisis, and people are scared. I am not one of them, but I don't have a lot of fear to begin with. But, for Moms and younger women, nerdy ass suburban men, walking through degradation and violence everyday pushes your mind into a place.

It starts with just the idea that you are OK walking by dead people, or possibly overdosed people, people twitching on the sidewalk, naked, covered in blood. You just keep walking. You are already viewing them as less human. There's million dollar condo buildings where the homeless invade everyday, sneaking in through the garage, smoking meth in the stairwell. Walked by someone's shop yesterday and two guys were sitting against her business door smoking meth, I made sure she had the door locked and had called the police.

I can see where this violence happens, and people feel relieved that someone is speaking up. But, this is not justifiable.

Just last week, walking by my house, this older guy collapsed, and me and another stranger (yuppie) stopped. She helped move him, and then was getting ready to leave, she was talking to him (and me) like children "you'll be ok, he's ok", and I just looked at her and she left. The guy had broken his shoulder. He couldn't move, I had to get his password and call 911 and he called 911. Waited the whole time until they picked him up. This woman was going to leave someone immobile like in the trapped out streets, could get victimized, robbed, beaten up.
 

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For a public execution to happen in that way and seemingly no repercussions. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of America or just NYC.

The country has been going in the wrong direction. But I'm not sure if the country as a whole has gotten THERE yet.

Politicians keep talking about mental illness, but seemingly are unwilling to do anything about it. A course correction is needed now than sooner.
people all over the country are bloodthirsty, if the "right" kind of person is shot, stabbed, run over with a car, or choked, there is always a segment of society that sees it as a good result. all they need are the slightest opening (scaring people, shoplifting, using drugs, protesting). texans are already trying to let a man off the hook for killing a BLM protester. the governor is making an inquiry into pardoning the killer.

this is partially a result of how we are trained to think - never question the system that puts large numbers of people in position to be a nuisance or threat, just focus on the individual and his "sins". if you hate the condition of the city you live in, take your anger out on the least powerful person in that city. add our natural tribalism to this and you get the punitive society we have.
 

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The "good, he deserved it" reaction of so many right wing people on social media is disturbing


It should wake Black men up across the country these crackas hate us.

Unfortunately a chunk of Black men are ignorant as fukk and live in a bubble where they don’t even follow current events and politics. Then you have the contrarians. Then you have the small chunk of sensible Aware Black men. We all should be fighting so this never happens again.
 
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