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Jordan Peterson vs Michael Eric Dyson debate on race
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BLΔCK⁂W⊙LF
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Jordan Peterson has got to be one of the most annoying figures today. Most of his work relied on Jungian psychology and Robert Moore (a lot of what he says, Robert Moore wrote down in various books).
Now he is being intellectually dishonest all because he gets funding from the right mostly, so he only attacks the "radical left" but doesn't say a damn thing about the radical/extremist right.... I remember one person questioned him on it, and he deflected saying, "I am talking about the left in my country (Canada)", and I was sitting there like, "but you are touring in America and Europe!"
I will watch the video now, and give my opinion later.
Now he is being intellectually dishonest all because he gets funding from the right mostly, so he only attacks the "radical left" but doesn't say a damn thing about the radical/extremist right.... I remember one person questioned him on it, and he deflected saying, "I am talking about the left in my country (Canada)", and I was sitting there like, "but you are touring in America and Europe!"
I will watch the video now, and give my opinion later.
BLΔCK⁂W⊙LF
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Just watched the video...
Dyson completely destroyed Jordan's idealistic - albeit genuine and good - viewpoint that group identity should not be embraced when he said that poc are denied their individuality when a White police officer rolls up on a Black child and begins shooting. Saying the left needs to abandon group identity when it is a central component of inequality to how Blacks are treated today in America (i.e., we are treated as a group) is being willfully ignorant of reality. Jordan had no choice but to try and talk about White Privilege at that moment because even he knew Dyson was correct. Jordan spoke on White privilege, but not in the correct usage of the term, rather in terms of a red-herring that unfortunately Dyson fell into. Dyson should have just taken control over the discussion and talked about what White privilege is by bringing up the Tamir Rice case. A White kid does not have to worry about being rolled up on by a Police Officer and gunned down within seconds whereas a Black does have to worry about that. White privilege is a White person not having to worry about walking home at night and being harassed and killed all because someone THINKS he is up to no good. White privilege is having the freedom to walk around town without being harassed by cops, followed in super markets, having police called on you for no reason other than being present, and many other cases. I think Dyson became flustered and got into name calling because Jordan's blatant refusal to acknowledge that fact.
Michael E. Dyson did a good job but he faltered when stating, "you're an angry White man". He should have just continued to dismantle Jordan's nonsense arguments.
Dyson completely destroyed Jordan's idealistic - albeit genuine and good - viewpoint that group identity should not be embraced when he said that poc are denied their individuality when a White police officer rolls up on a Black child and begins shooting. Saying the left needs to abandon group identity when it is a central component of inequality to how Blacks are treated today in America (i.e., we are treated as a group) is being willfully ignorant of reality. Jordan had no choice but to try and talk about White Privilege at that moment because even he knew Dyson was correct. Jordan spoke on White privilege, but not in the correct usage of the term, rather in terms of a red-herring that unfortunately Dyson fell into. Dyson should have just taken control over the discussion and talked about what White privilege is by bringing up the Tamir Rice case. A White kid does not have to worry about being rolled up on by a Police Officer and gunned down within seconds whereas a Black does have to worry about that. White privilege is a White person not having to worry about walking home at night and being harassed and killed all because someone THINKS he is up to no good. White privilege is having the freedom to walk around town without being harassed by cops, followed in super markets, having police called on you for no reason other than being present, and many other cases. I think Dyson became flustered and got into name calling because Jordan's blatant refusal to acknowledge that fact.
Michael E. Dyson did a good job but he faltered when stating, "you're an angry White man". He should have just continued to dismantle Jordan's nonsense arguments.
Dyson buried that bytch.
I honestly don't know why we bother with debating with white people on race. These people are afraid of getting genetically annihilated by us. There is no reasoning with them. They are the children Yakub after all.
We should concentrate on just trying to wake our people up from their brainwashing so we can regain our standing as the rulers of this world. I'm at a point now where I don't even talk to crakkkas about anything related to race. I only waste my energy on our people who are still under their mind control. PERIOD.
We should concentrate on just trying to wake our people up from their brainwashing so we can regain our standing as the rulers of this world. I'm at a point now where I don't even talk to crakkkas about anything related to race. I only waste my energy on our people who are still under their mind control. PERIOD.
HellRell804
Banned
Jordan Peterson has got to be one of the most annoying figures today. Most of his work relied on Jungian psychology and Robert Moore (a lot of what he says, Robert Moore wrote down in various books).
Now he is being intellectually dishonest all because he gets funding from the right mostly, so he only attacks the "radical left" but doesn't say a damn thing about the radical/extremist right.... I remember one person questioned him on it, and he deflected saying, "I am talking about the left in my country (Canada)", and I was sitting there like, "but you are touring in America and Europe!"
I will watch the video now, and give my opinion later.
In the first few seconds of the clip he condemned the left and the right for their brands of identity politics. Man yall agents are something else. You just bank on people not actually reading and watching things
Obviously you watch a lot of PetersonJordan Peterson has got to be one of the most annoying figures today. Most of his work relied on Jungian psychology and Robert Moore (a lot of what he says, Robert Moore wrote down in various books).
Now he is being intellectually dishonest all because he gets funding from the right mostly, so he only attacks the "radical left" but doesn't say a damn thing about the radical/extremist right.... I remember one person questioned him on it, and he deflected saying, "I am talking about the left in my country (Canada)", and I was sitting there like, "but you are touring in America and Europe!"
I will watch the video now, and give my opinion later.
This is one of his key phrases
Yeah Dyson should have left out that ''mean mad white man'' part :uneasy: he's intelligent enough not to go there
BobbyBooshay
Arnold Jackson
Another Jordan who is the GOAT, I follow him - this should be good.
African Peasant
Veteran
Intellectual circus.
IVS
Superstar
LMFAO! Why we bothering to debate with these people. shyt is a waste of breathe.
Not watching but Im sure dyson is throwing around 13 syllable words and speaking quickly.
Not watching but Im sure dyson is throwing around 13 syllable words and speaking quickly.
Killigraphy
Banned
Dyson lost the minute he went into race baiting tactics and name calling. While I understand his point, here didn't understand Peterson's, or he did and was playing inept to sound like a bigger mouth piece.
Didn't listen yet but that seems like an appropriate description of Peterson