Julius Erving: "Im Taking Kobe Over LeBron"

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Are we GMs?



Now, it matters if a fan of the team thinks a player is washed up or not instead of the actual production on the court?:rudy:



Is this is what the LWO has to argue against everyday....this type of knowledge:snoop:

They were star players going into that season taking the NBA league minimum. Even "washed up", they were significantly better than league minimum players. Thats my point, to the guy claiming the Miami 3 'cheated the cap' by taking less $.
 

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WRONG

dr. j was a deadbeat dad
lebron doesnt know his dad

it makes more sense for dr. j to side with lebron because it would show that the lack of a father isn't an excuse to not excel

the fact that he chose kobe means he truly believes it


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Bron's still a level below Kobe/MJ when it comes to being a closer.That's his weakness when trying to compare him to guys on that level.Bron will lose games that he never should lose because his closing ability just isn't what you would expect out of a dude as athletically/physically gifted as he is.

But that's my whole point.It goes beyond the physical and approaches the metaphysical..Essentially, he doesn't have it.He's not a killer.Even without it, he more than likely will still go down as a top 5 player of all times.That's a testament to him being a phenomenally gifted physical specimen/ athlete with above average skills in just about every primary basketball skill you can have.


By nature, he's just too much of a gentle giant.He don't have the soul of a maniacal villain like MJ/Kobe had to combine with his athletic gifts/all around game.If he did, it wouldn't be fair.He'd be the greatest of all time without a doubt.


In regards to the last 15 years, nobody's fukking with Kobe when it comes to that element.Nobody's even close IMO

And I say that as a non Kobe stan


The tangible parts of their game was just more developed than Bron's....combined with their over the edge, certifiably insane will(Will is bone marrow deep.It's beyond physical) to win.


It doesn't matter what form or skill set it applies to or manifest itself in.It's in your essence as person.


Bird had it.

Hakeem Had it

Zeke had it


Tangibly, his game is not as advanced or evolved as MJ or Kobe.It's like Bron dominates more off his God given talents than he does his "forged by my own hand" man made talents.Those lil "attention to detail" things.Kobe, MJ, and a host of other all time greats seemed to be more cultivated in that area.

You know, the lil subtle nuances of the game.Some call it "craftiness".Instead,Bron is what his name implies..Brawny...muscle...He is "The Brawn"


It wouldn't be fair if he had a mentally deranged will to win.Combined with his athletic gifts.
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...It just wouldn't be fair.I'm tired of all this comparison shyt to be honest.I love watching Bron play.Like I said, basketball phenomenon.

But going into a game 7 against my team, Kobe, MJ, Bird, Dream would have me shytting in my drawls....not Bron
 

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Bron's still a level below Kobe/MJ when it comes to being a closer.That's his weakness when trying to compare him to guys on that level.Bron will lose games that he never should lose because his closing ability just isn't what you would expect out of a dude as athletically/physically gifted as he is.

But that's my whole point.It goes beyond the physical and approaches the metaphysical..Essentially, he doesn't have it.He's not a killer.Even without it, he more than likely will still go down as a top 5 player of all times.That's a testament to him being a phenomenally gifted physical specimen/ athlete with above average skills in just about every primary basketball skill you can have.


By nature, he's just too much of a gentle giant.He don't have the soul of a maniacal villain like MJ/Kobe had to combine with his athletic gifts/all around game.If he did, it wouldn't be fair.He'd be the greatest of all time without a doubt.


In regards to the last 15 years, nobody's fukking with Kobe when it comes to that element.Nobody's even close IMO

And I say that as a non Kobe stan


The tangible parts of their game was just more developed than Bron's....combined with their over the edge, certifiably insane will(Will is bone marrow deep.It's beyond physical) to win.


It doesn't matter what form or skill set it applies to or manifest itself in.It's in your essence as person.


Bird had it.

Hakeem Had it

Zeke had it


Tangibly, his game is not as advanced or evolved as MJ or Kobe.It's like Bron dominates more off his God given talents than he does his "forged by my own hand" man made talents.Those lil "attention to detail" things.Kobe, MJ, and a host of other all time greats seemed to be more cultivated in that area.

You know, the lil subtle nuances of the game.Some call it "craftiness".Instead,Bron is what his name implies..Brawny...muscle...He is "The Brawn"


It wouldn't be fair if he had a mentally deranged will to win.Combined with his athletic gifts.
sheeeeeeeeeeeeit-o.gif
...It just wouldn't be fair.I'm tired of all this comparison shyt to be honest.I love watching Bron play.Like I said, basketball phenomenon.

But going into a game 7 against my team, Kobe, MJ, Bird, Dream would have me shytting in my drawls....not Bron



:wtf:
Bron just dominated and won a game seven.

I think the players you picked would be better off.
Only because of the coaching staff, roster and their preparedness.
Of which, dream, bird, mj and Kobe had better consistent rosters and coaching on paper, consistently.
If we were trying to say they would be more effective on paper in a game seven.
Regardless of that,...
Bron is still the same holy-shyt-ski moment as those players in a game seven.
Given if they had the piss-poor coaching, and roster bron has had to play with.
Which are understaffed by personnel, pedigree and actual size matchups.
Also,....
Why would dr j take bron over Kobe?
Then, that means dr j could not get his own tick out the time machine and play, his damn self.
Did any of you think dr j would want to still play out the time machine, too.




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Bron just dominated and won a game seven.

I think the players you picked would be better off.
Only because of the coaching staff, roster and their preparedness.
Of which, dream, bird, mj and Kobe had better consistent rosters and coaching on paper, consistently.
If we were trying to say they would be more effective on paper in a game seven.
Regardless of that,...
Bron is still the same holy-shyt-ski moment as those players in a game seven.
Given if they had the piss-poor coaching, and roster bron has had to play with.
Which are understaffed by personnel, pedigree and actual size matchups.
Also,....
Why would dr j take bron over Kobe?
Then, that means dr j could not get his own tick out the time machine and play, his damn self.
Did any of you think dr j would want to still play out the time machine, too.




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Bron's just not a level 10 killer IMO.Maybe more like a level 7...I guess to the average person, that's good enough....But we're putting him up against basketball Juggernauts like MJ and Kobe...exclusive company

His genetic/physical/athletic skills...AKA...His God given talent is undeniable.He's able to just bully muthafukkas around and be dominant.

But his self ruling talent is limited.His basketball creativity/repertoire is not as vast as a MJ or Kobe...especially on the offensive side of the ball.His execution is sloppy and his arsenal consist of strictly outmuscling his opponent when he's isolated in the clutch

It's the only thing that keeps me from ranking him ahead of Kobe this generation

In a way, it might not be fair to Bron.He's just not built like that inwardly.

He's wired more like a Jason Kidd or Magic Johnson IMO
 

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I never understood how players can go professionally into a sport and not be a bookwork about its history.


Half these guys dont care about getting better cause they're getting millions of $$$$$ before they even play a damn game (looks at you John Wall :comeon:)


I agree though, Kobe was a better player than Lebron in his prime
 

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thats not spinning, thats reality. And in reality the BIG 3 cheated the salary cap system by taking pay cuts. Nothing respectable about that.

I thought players supposed to get respect for making a financial sacrifice to win a championship and have their names along with the all-time greats who dominated the league before them. Not many players would have made that sacrifice because in their minds the money comes first before the ring.

The sacrifice that Bosh, Wade, and Bron made became a big reward for them and the Heat franchise. The reward is three straight final appearances and 1 championship and another is coming on the way if the Heat step up their game in next following games of the championship series.

You are just pissed off because your team probably spend too much money and didn't earn anything from its investment. :youngsabo:
 

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Bron's just not a level 10 killer IMO.Maybe more like a level 7...I guess to the average person, that's good enough....But we're putting him up against basketball Juggernauts like MJ and Kobe...exclusive company

His genetic/physical/athletic skills...AKA...His God given talent is undeniable.He's able to just bully muthafukkas around and be dominant.

But his self ruling talent is limited.His basketball creativity/repertoire is not as vast as a MJ or Kobe...especially on the offensive side of the ball.His execution is sloppy and his arsenal consist of strictly outmuscling his opponent when he's isolated in the clutch

It's the only thing that keeps me from ranking him ahead of Kobe this generation

In a way, it might not be fair to Bron.He's just not built like that inwardly.

He's wired more like a Jason Kidd or Magic Johnson IMO



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Magic is a way iller killer than kobe.
The ratings from the 79 ncaa finals and his performance winning the NBA final game, as a rook.
For starters kill your wiring comparison.
Or an idea,
Bron can not execute on the level of anyone given the circumstance
Also,..
Kidd looked like a killer.
When, kidd stabbed and swept up the Lakers in a murder scene.
Enroute, to murdering bron.
So, let's just stop the whole bron is not wired like this or that comparison

shyt so bullshyt,...
I can recite hordes more bron closing important moments and consistently more potent outings consistently.
That lead to more direct wins and outstanding improvements in team performance.
When compared to kobe and always running a ship minded and accomplished FO.
nikka, bron took the cavs.
You know,...
The Cleveland cavaliers,....
To the fukking NBA finals.
Kobe was just recreating the championship team legacy amd staffing pedigree by design.
Which was/is all stylistic towards any and every trend, player, or coach.
Man,.....
Bron made Cleveland as a ball squad a winning relevency.
if kobe had not of basically pulled second Gen clout.
To force charlotte's hand,....
I do not see him being coddled for success, like out in la, at all.
I easily see bron going anywhere else amd immediately starting a sweeping impactful addition to a squad.
Unlike, kobe....
Who even amongst full pedigree staffing sat.
In the hypothetical situation, that bron was drafted in la.
I see bron possibly starting at pg.
Or easily, starting at sf.
Then, easing into the new magic role.
With no absolute question.
With kobe,....
He would and has had to be coddled.
Bron is more aware as an actual better IQ player.
Of which,..anyone with a sound execution based basketball mind.
Should be able to ser that if you peep the results.
Plus, the actual complexion of the games incomparison performance/presence wise,.....
As it relates to kobe and lebron.
Kobe only had results with the best possible pedigree'd parts and circumstances.
Circumstances being one,...
Kobe would not and did beat the Celtics fully healthy, in game six.
Let alone game seven to repeat.
Bron lauced't to those same celt's.
Those same Celtics who were green Vader dark side of the force villainy good healthy.
Bron went to the offs/finals and/or lauced't to the same people, Kobe lauced't to.

When judging Most of their opponents in the off rounds and finals.

Pistons,....
Celtics,....
Mavericks
Spurs

So, how is Kobe better when he had a better everything, including front line and coaching.
Yet still only won twice, and got his ass whipped in the offs or finals, just like bron.
Given the number of chances to lose.
Plus, always was a big man better.
Even when, bron had a seven footer.
Which aided him significantly in the magic and Celtics ships.

Plus, in general, kobe played in the finals or offs.
the same people bron lauced't to.
Then, lauced to those teams except in two situations of circumstance.
The Orlando ship and the game seven win over the wounded celts ship.
Of which bron lauced't to the magic and the healthy celtics.
Of which,...
You can not say kobe was that much better.
Given the fact kobe had lower numbers and percentages.
Plus, significantly and vehemently kicking and screaming forcing the issue.
Where, it was obvious gasol and artest were the winning pieces of those two ships.
With kobe as a main publicized and mvp falsely rewarded addition.

From a basketball IQ and execution standpoint given the sum of lesser parts.
Which I feel is the real judge of that ballplayer's real skill as a real killer.
In that situation, bron has proven to be the better player.
When compared to kobe Bryant, from the time that kobe was drafted.
If you judge that against what we are judging ball players for.
Yeah,...we like Kobe stylistically.
Yet, bron makes up for all the style points in single game consistency against any era of Kobe.
Especially, the psycho bean era.
Where psycho bean scored and they lauced't with no parts, except phil as an argument.
A Phil, he would not listen to.
Versus the aged psycho bean era.
Where most recently,...
Aged psycho bean,...
Again did not listen in principle.
To what brown or Pringles told him to.
He did what that other psycho bean on his shoulder, told him to do.
Thus,...
Once, again resulting in another lauced't filled loser campaign.
With,...
Dwight Howard, gasol, mwp, nash,...
Where aged psycho bean acted as if he did not have help.
Whereas,....
If he was, as good as bron.
Would have willed and executed his past allstar fully pedigree'd roster.
Regardless, of excuse clearly and cleanly a top the west.
Something, we all saw Kobe fail at.
Which, is something bron did with lesser pedigree'd parts and similar coaching.
Or similar parts, regardless of age and still bron performed, better.







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Its amazing yall wine like hoesss, just decide who you riding with and fukk it all this convincing another man to see it yo way is a no way #goheat #gobosh #nikka

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