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I'm sitting here living life, watching gold and silver, the stock market, doing taxes, playing video games, and coli tethers are thinking about FBA, and how Tariq keeps shytting all over said tethers.
It's actually other Black Americans who speak out against Tariq Nasheed. Most people have no idea who Tariq Nasheed is. He's not as big as you think he is.







 

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To you.

You must understand once and for all we are not the same people.

Do you see how easily you can excuse your people and blame the white man for taking advantage of their naivety (pure bullshyt.) and weaponizing them against us?

I don’t see it that way at all, I see you as one and the same (the opportunity and the opportunist), and if you fukked us over once you’ll do it again and again.

You’re only mad that you’re caught.

You’re actually worst than the white man you’re always deflecting to because you can blend in and do your treachery undetected.
A while ago Courtney Michelle did an amazing lecture,

American Horror Story - The Negro Cocaine Fiend



“In 1914, a racist fiction helped sell one of the nation’s first drug laws; 100 years later, it’s still with us.”

Preposterous? Yes, but such reporting was not the exception. Between 1898 and 1914, numerous articles appeared exaggerating the association of heinous crimes and cocaine use by blacks. In some cases, suspicion of cocaine intoxication by blacks was reason enough to justify lynchings. Eventually, it helped influence legislation.”
[…]
“In 1986, Congress passed the infamous Anti-Drug Abuse Act, setting penalties that were 100 times harsher for crack than for powder cocaine convictions. We now know that an astonishing 85 percent of those sentenced for crack cocaine offenses were black, even though the majority of users of the drug were, and are, white. We also know that the effects of crack were greatly exaggerated; crack is no more harmful than powder cocaine. On August 3, 2010, President Obama signed legislation that reduced the sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine from 100:1 to 18:1. This is an important step, but any sentencing disparity in this case makes no sense.

Black males are no longer lynched for violating drug laws, but they are killed. (Ramarley Graham, the unarmed Bronx teen who was chased into his bathroom and shot because police officers believed he had drugs, is just one recent example.)”

 

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A while ago Courtney Michelle did an amazing lecture,

American Horror Story - The Negro Cocaine Fiend



“In 1914, a racist fiction helped sell one of the nation’s first drug laws; 100 years later, it’s still with us.”

Preposterous? Yes, but such reporting was not the exception. Between 1898 and 1914, numerous articles appeared exaggerating the association of heinous crimes and cocaine use by blacks. In some cases, suspicion of cocaine intoxication by blacks was reason enough to justify lynchings. Eventually, it helped influence legislation.”
[…]
“In 1986, Congress passed the infamous Anti-Drug Abuse Act, setting penalties that were 100 times harsher for crack than for powder cocaine convictions. We now know that an astonishing 85 percent of those sentenced for crack cocaine offenses were black, even though the majority of users of the drug were, and are, white. We also know that the effects of crack were greatly exaggerated; crack is no more harmful than powder cocaine. On August 3, 2010, President Obama signed legislation that reduced the sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine from 100:1 to 18:1. This is an important step, but any sentencing disparity in this case makes no sense.

Black males are no longer lynched for violating drug laws, but they are killed. (Ramarley Graham, the unarmed Bronx teen who was chased into his bathroom and shot because police officers believed he had drugs, is just one recent example.)”


“Don’t look at us bredren look pon de white mon.”

Them laws didn’t have uzis running in nikkas cribs shooting up grandmas and babies just to gain territory in a drug war they started.

We can handle multiple enemies at once and no one dies a worst death than a two faced traitor and turn coat.









Y'all went around the country systematically terrorizing FBA communities just to get a footing in the United States as citizens, hiding under the “We All Black” act, and you’re lucky more of our people aren’t aware of how y'all carried on, yet.
 

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“Don’t look at us bredren look pon de white mon.”

Them laws didn’t have uzis running in nikkas cribs shooting up grandmas and babies just to gain territory in a drug war they started.

We can handle multiple enemies at once and no one dies a worst death than a two faced traitor and turn coat.









Y'all went around the country systematically terrorizing FBA communities just to get a footing in the United States as citizens, hiding under the “We All Black” act, and you’re lucky more of our people aren’t aware of how y'all carried on, yet.

By that logic the Three strikes laws made sense and as justified? Not sure who you mean by y'all? Jamaica and Suriname ar tow totally different countries, nor I'm affiliated with people who do criminal activities. The closest I got was gangsta rap, and that is how I heard about the Shower Possie. My family I spoke of became part of the Black American middle class, that became the community they contributed to.

"Williams began to live an ironic double life in which he worked as an anti-gang youth counselor in Compton[10] while also serving as the overboss for one of the largest gangs in Los Angeles. Williams would work as a counselor and study sociology at Compton College during working hours, then spend his free time participating in numerous violent attacks against the Bloods."

 
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I'm not excusing anyone. On a personal level, I can speak for my family, the ones that came here were mostly tradesmen with a 4th grade education who were not privy to the plight and history of Black Americans in this country. Did it help that a white supervisor on his site told him they would rather hire Caribbeans over Americans when he arrived-no. Also didn't help that he was called coconut when he arrived initially for years. I educated him and other's who talk down and it takes a lot of indoctrination but that's because they can just be stubborn in nature.

You can see me as whatever you want, unless you are a jew or a white person, once again these are all "angry internet C.I.A. rhetoric" that will probably be forgotten in a few years. You don't have any tangible power besides "well, I don't fukk with ya'll and don't like y"all." Okay cool, while a Hispanic or Indian takes your job.

As far as not being the same people, that's low iq babble mostly from Tariq. Let me guess FBA hairlines right but Lebron doesn't count. Whether you like it or not, you are genetically closest to West Africans and West Indians so there's not even a point in you trying too play that card.
 

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I'm not excusing anyone. On a personal level, I can speak for my family, the ones that came here were mostly tradesmen with a 4th grade education who were not privy to the plight and history of Black Americans in this country. Did it help that a white supervisor on his site told him they would rather hire Caribbeans over Americans when he arrived-no. Also didn't help that he was called coconut when he arrived initially for years. I educated him and other's who talk down and it takes a lot of indoctrination but that's because they can just be stubborn in nature.

You can see me as whatever you want, unless you are a jew or a white person, once again these are all "angry internet C.I.A. rhetoric" that will probably be forgotten in a few years. You don't have any tangible power besides "well, I don't fukk with ya'll and don't like y"all." Okay cool, while a Hispanic or Indian takes your job.

As far as not being the same people, that's low iq babble mostly from Tariq. Let me guess FBA hairlines right but Lebron doesn't count. Whether you like it or not, you are genetically closest to West Africans and West Indians so there's not even a point in you trying too play that card.
You forgot to quote me.

Props to your pops I have nothing but respect for tradesmen.

We are not the same people, the same way that Jamaicans and Haitians are not the same people.

4:10 we might be distant cousins


It’s funny how yall can instantly recognize all of your differences when it comes to each other, but when it comes to us, nahh we just one happy family.

Which leads to the ignorant “Black Americans have no culture” (in comparison to your colonial cultures) comments.

I can’t help the name calling you guys suffered.

It’s part of our culture.

But it was probably other Caribs posing as Americans calling you that.

That’s an epedemic that needs to be addressed.

 
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“How did New York City become the sprawling global financial metropolis we know of today? New York City's beginnings start in the 1600s, when the Dutch West India Company, landed on "Manahatta" (Lenape for "land of many hills") and created a colony, Dutch New Amsterdam, to profit from the beaver fur trade and commerce. Later, in 1664, this colony would be taken by the British and renamed New York, after the Duke of York.”

Colonial African Enslavement - African Burial Ground National Monument (U.S. National Park Service)


"This history had started with the arrival of a black man. In June 1613, Juan Rodrigues, a free sailor from Hispaniola (in what is today the Dominican Republic) who worked for a Dutch fur trading company, was left on Manhattan Island to trade with Native Americans. He was the first non-indigenous permanent resident of Manhattan and remained the only one until 1621 when the Dutch West India Company (WIC) built a settlement and began introducing African labor."

New York City's Slave Market | The New York Public Library
I'm well-aware. As a very little girl, my mother volunteered as secretary for the Emanuel Pietersen Historical Society (ungoogleable, waaaay pre-internet). The Pietersen last name is still extant among black NY'ers, btw. I grew up under black historians. Teach them, don't teach me.

In early New York (specifically New Amsterdam), the case of Emanuel Pietersen (also recorded as Manuel Pietersen or Manuel de Gerrit de Reus) is a landmark historical record regarding the rights of Black residents in the Dutch colony.

The Case of Emanuel Pietersen
Emanuel Pietersen was a free Black man in New Amsterdam who appeared before the Council of New Netherland in the mid-17th century.
  • The Petition: In 1661, Pietersen petitioned the Director-General and Council for the custody and guardianship of an orphan child named Christina, the daughter of a deceased Black couple, Anthony and Maria.
  • The Context: At the time, Black residents in New Amsterdam, many of whom were "half-free" or fully free, utilized the Dutch court system to secure legal protections, property, and family rights.
  • The Outcome: The court granted his request, allowing him to raise the child. This case is frequently cited by historians to demonstrate that free Black individuals in the Dutch era had a recognized legal standing that allowed them to act as legal guardians, a right that was severely restricted after the British takeover in 1664.

Historical Significance
  • Legal Personhood: Pietersen's ability to sue and petition in court shows that Black New Amsterdammers were treated as "legal persons" under Roman-Dutch law.
  • Community Bonds: The case highlights the strong community networks among the early Black population in Manhattan, who often took in orphaned children to prevent them from being bound into indentured servitude or slavery.
 

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That’s an epedemic that needs to be addressed.
Facts. Caller was egregious.

Do you see how easily you can excuse your people and blame the white man for taking advantage of their naivety (pure bullshyt.) and weaponizing them against us?

I don’t see it that way at all, I see you as one and the same (the opportunity and the opportunist), and if you fukked us over once you’ll do it again and again.

You’re only mad that you’re caught.

You’re actually worst than the white man you’re always deflecting to because you can blend in and do your treachery undetected.
You see it too. Working with the mf'ing CIA but 'we all the same.' Get the fukk outta here.

Them laws didn’t have uzis running in nikkas cribs shooting up grandmas and babies just to gain territory in a drug war they started.
More facts, and I knew nikkas that was really bout that. They still wasn't moving so sloppy and homicidal. You move different when your granny live up the block and might get hit.

I heard the og's ran them out of Harlem but certain white folks in Bk sold to them in neighborhoods that had been formerly restricted to us, like Canarsie (home of Pop Smoke). Biggie, otoh, was from Bed Stuy, a traditionally FBA neighborhood.
 

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I'm well-aware. As a very little girl, my mother volunteered as secretary for the Emanuel Pietersen Historical Society (ungoogleable, waaaay pre-internet). The Pietersen last name is still extant among black NY'ers, btw. I grew up under black historians. Teach them, don't teach me.

In early New York (specifically New Amsterdam), the case of Emanuel Pietersen (also recorded as Manuel Pietersen or Manuel de Gerrit de Reus) is a landmark historical record regarding the rights of Black residents in the Dutch colony.

The Case of Emanuel Pietersen
Emanuel Pietersen was a free Black man in New Amsterdam who appeared before the Council of New Netherland in the mid-17th century.
  • The Petition: In 1661, Pietersen petitioned the Director-General and Council for the custody and guardianship of an orphan child named Christina, the daughter of a deceased Black couple, Anthony and Maria.
  • The Context: At the time, Black residents in New Amsterdam, many of whom were "half-free" or fully free, utilized the Dutch court system to secure legal protections, property, and family rights.
  • The Outcome: The court granted his request, allowing him to raise the child. This case is frequently cited by historians to demonstrate that free Black individuals in the Dutch era had a recognized legal standing that allowed them to act as legal guardians, a right that was severely restricted after the British takeover in 1664.

Historical Significance
  • Legal Personhood: Pietersen's ability to sue and petition in court shows that Black New Amsterdammers were treated as "legal persons" under Roman-Dutch law.
  • Community Bonds: The case highlights the strong community networks among the early Black population in Manhattan, who often took in orphaned children to prevent them from being bound into indentured servitude or slavery.
Hmm, I didn't know that. What you've posted is valuable information. And it does put things in context.

But we do have something call zwarte piet (black pete). You are probably farimiair with that already. It's basically blackface mockery.


And Sinterklaas the other individual is a mixture of Saint clause Nicolas. It's an individual mixed up with Catholic, Celtic and Nordic traditions, like Wodan and the Pope. The 5th to be exact.



 

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You forgot to quote me.

Props to your pops I have nothing but respect for tradesmen.

We are not the same people, the same way that Jamaicans and Haitians are not the same people.



It’s funny how yall can instantly recognize all of your differences when it comes to each other, but when it comes to us, nahh we just one happy family.

Which leads to the ignorant “Black Americans have no culture” (in comparison to your colonial cultures) comments.

I can’t help the name calling you guys suffered.

It’s part of our culture.

But it was probably other Caribs posing as Americans calling you that.

That’s an epedemic that needs to be addressed.


It's ironic, because I do recall him giving praise to Chromeo for producing Solange Knowles. That is not cosplaying... nor were the other white musicians on his Mink Slide Egyptian Musk album, because Black musicians are "always late", according to Tariq.

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"Many of the sites reveal evidence of important interactions between Nilotic and Saharan groups during the formative phases of the Egyptian Predynastic Period (e.g. Wadi el-Hôl, Rayayna, Nuq’ Menih, Kurkur Oasis). Other sites preserve important information regarding the use of the desert routes during the Protodynastic and Pharaonic Periods, particularly during periods of political and military turmoil in the Nile Valley (e.g. Gebel Tjauti, Wadi el-Hôl).”



“There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa.
In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas
[...]

Any interpretation of the biological affinities of the ancient Egyptians must be placed in the context of hypothesis informed by the archaeological, linguistic, geographic or other data.

In this context the physical anthropological evidence indicates that the early Nile Valley populations can be identified as part of an African lineage, but exhibiting local variation.


This variation represents the short and long term effects of evolutionary forces, such as gene flow, genetic drift, and natural selection influenced by culture and geography"


"Ancient Egypt belongs to a language group known as 'Afroasiatic' (formerly called Hamito-Semitic) and its closest relatives are other north-east African languages from Somalia to Chad. Egypt's cultural features, both material and ideological and particularly in the earliest phases, show clear connections with that same broad area. In sum, ancient Egypt was an African culture, developed by African peoples, who had wide ranging contacts in north Africa and western Asia.”
[...]
"The ancient Egyptians were not 'white' in any European sense, nor were they 'Caucasian'... we can say that the earliest population of ancient Egypt included African people from the upper Nile, African people from the regions of the Sahara and modern Libya, and smaller numbers of people who had come from south-western Asia and perhaps the Arabian penisula."




"When the Elephantine results were added to a broader pooling of the physical characteristics drawn from a wide geographic region which includes Africa, the Mediterranean and the Near East quite strong affinities emerge between Elephantine and populations from Nubia, supporting a strong south-north cline."
[…]
"...sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty (Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline variation along the Nile valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into southern Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans."


 
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Hmm, I didn't know that. What you've posted is valuable information. And it does put things in context.
I'm aware of zwarte piet and his connection to 'Saint Nick.' I have Pietersen cousins.

When FBA came north in the Great Migration, we mixed in with whoever was already here: Afro Dutch descendants, black-Italian mixes, etc. You'd be surprised how many part-Italians walking around here. I also have them in my family. It's such a substantial group that we've isolated an accent, see Dave East. I'm not claiming anything about his background, just saying that he's representative of that group.
 
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