Just trying to get our Coli Rating Up - Miami Heat Season thread 2015/16

[havoc]

Also, we have a top 10 offense in the league.

It's not as bad as y'all think it is

All this shows me is how good Winslow really is. His ability to focus on defense and allow our Gerald's and Wade focus on offense affects our 4th quarter legs in a mean way.

I have no doubt that Winslow would have put that work on Wayne Ellington.

But what about our offense ? He wasn't going to do anything to be a scoring threat.

@Cross, the advance statistics is bullshyt. We are in the bottom of the league in scoring, field goals, three-point shots, assists, and rebounds. We loss all of our games due to poor offense performance. We really need scoring and also we need to work on attacking the boards. Spo needs to stop running small line-ups against a big line-up.

 

[Draje]

But what about our offense ? He wasn't going to do anything to be a scoring threat.

@Cross, the advance statistics is bullshyt. We are in the bottom of the league in scoring, field goals, three-point shots, assists, and rebounds. We loss all of our games due to poor offense performance. We really need scoring and also we need to work on attacking the boards. Spo needs to stop running small line-ups against a big line-up.

Winslow's overall defensive presence means Green, Wade, and Dragic have to expend less energy throughout the game.

Winslow also makes it easier on our bigs because he doesn't play out of position and force the bigs to rotate. Green's best games come when Winslow and Deng are in because microwave shooters like Green need their legs.

We're also a defensive minded team and we're at our best when we use our defense to smother opponents into creating our offend rather trying to get into shootouts.

Breh, stop using those stats. We're the slowest team in the league so all those numbers are lower than what they mean on the court. Teams that play us don't score their average, they play much slower too.

We hold our opponents to the 3rd lowest PPG in the league and we're 27th in team scoring PPG. Our low numbers in those categories are pace related, not offense related.

We're an average offensive team but a good defensive on. When our defense is intense and at 100%, we win games.

Problem is that Bosh is a first option offensive talent with too low of an ego to be a star. As good as he is, he's just not the kind of player who will keep attacking until he cools down. He's too accommodating.

Put Hassan's ego in Bosh's skill set, he'd probably be the 2nd best PF in the game. Give Whiteside Bosh's basketball IQ and scoring ability then you'd have the best big man in the game.

It's frustrating. Same with Dragic (Though I can kinda see why he might not mind going 2nd banana to Wade).

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

No shyt the stats don't tell the whole story but they help and you know it.

My point remains the same: You don't know more than the coaches

A lot of factors go into deciding who's on the court and you don't know what they are.

Youdon't have the game tapes. Youdon't know the defensive scheme. You don't know their assignments.

I'm telling you to just sit back and enjoy the ride.

Your love for Hassan is getting disturbing at this point

I like how you avoided the question I asked you. the same stats you keep using to shyt on hassan suggest dwyane wade is a liability to this team. we're better defensively with him off the court, and we are just as good offensively with him off the court. there's virtually no drop off in our offensive performance when dwyane wade leaves the game. you care to break this down for us?.....you have an endless amount of reasons for hassan's On/Off stats, go ahead and explain why these same stats show dwyane wade has pretty much no offensive impact on the team. I really wanna hear this.

 

[OfTheCross]

But what about our offense ? He wasn't going to do anything to be a scoring threat.

@Cross, the advance statistics is bullshyt. We are in the bottom of the league in scoring, field goals, three-point shots, assists, and rebounds. We loss all of our games due to poor offense performance. We really need scoring and also we need to work on attacking the boards. Spo needs to stop running small line-ups against a big line-up.

Not totally bullshyt. You have to account for our pace of play and # of possessions when looking at the numbers you mentioned.

I think we all agree that we need a shooter. When we get cold on offense we need someone that can knockdown a J.

Last night we lost cause of shytty free throw shooting and Gerald Green was cold as ice.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Look at this highlight from last night.

Gasol's overtime performance sends Grizzlies past Heat 99-90

Who's to blame for what happened at the :48 mark? (rhetorical question) Is it TJ, Dragic, or Whiteside?

We don't know. They do. They'll figure it out or loss their jobs.

.......NOBODY is saying is hassan is perfect. nobody is saying he never gets scored on and he doesn't make mistakes. this is what i'm talking about. you pick out one possession to back up your claims. how about the very first possession of overtime....when hassan forced gasol into an airball but the rest of our team allowed mario fukkin chalmers to get an offensive rebound and put back layup with no contest at all. was that hassan's fault too?

 

[Primetime21]

Stop responding to this cat and let him go back to posting on realgm

 

[OfTheCross]

I like how you avoided the question I asked you. the same stats you keep using to shyt on hassan suggest dwyane wade is a liability to this team. we're better defensively with him off the court, and we are just as good offensively with him off the court. there's virtually no drop off in our offensive performance when dwyane wade leaves the game. you care to break this down for us?.....you have an endless amount of reasons for hassan's On/Off stats, go ahead and explain why these same stats show dwyane wade has pretty much no offensive impact on the team. I really wanna hear this.

I answered that already and it didn't change anything in regards to the point I've been making.

I'll copy and paste my response and add a couple words to clarify it for you:

Hassan and Wade often play together.

So who's fukking up on defense that the Heat are giving up more points with Hassan and DWade on the court?

You don't know. You don't have the game tapes. You don't know the defensive scheme. You don't know their assignments.

Leave that up to the coaches, bruh

 

[OfTheCross]

.......NOBODY is saying is hassan is perfect. nobody is saying he never gets scored on and he doesn't make mistakes. this is what i'm talking about. you pick out one possession to back up your claims. how about the very first possession of overtime....when hassan forced gasol into an airball but the rest of our team allowed mario fukkin chalmers to get an offensive rebound and put back layup with no contest at all. was that hassan's fault too?

Take your cape off for this guy.

I'm not saying that he's good or bad. I'm saying that we don't know enough for all this bytching you're doing about it.

Let them figure it out. I mean, just the other day Hassan was saying that he's got to play better defensively and now he's getting more time because of it.

They'll be alright, breh.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I answered that already and it didn't change anything in regards to the point I've been making.

I'll copy and paste my response and add a couple words to clarify it for you:

so when it comes to wade you're willing to admit these stats are misleading and it's not just about one player but how the entire team plays off one another .......aight i'm done with this shyt:SpoGonnaSpo:

 

[yaaa_mad]

These back to back losses started a civil war

 

[OfTheCross]

so when it comes to wade you're willing to admit these stats are misleading and it's not just about one player but how the entire team plays off one another .......aight i'm done with this shyt:SpoGonnaSpo:

I'm not saying the numbers are bullshyt at all. They help. Looking at game tapes and knowing defensive assignments also helps.

Why are you so adamant in your belief that you know more about basketball than NBA coaches?

These back to back losses started a civil war

 

[OfTheCross]

 

[OfTheCross]

Goran calling the team out a little bit for losing their way offensively

“When everybody is getting their shots, then we’re dangerous,” Dragic said. “Then I feel sometimes in the fourth quarter, it’s like 1 on 5, 2 on 5, just pick-and-roll in the middle and that’s it. It’s kind of hard. But when everybody gets their rhythm, when everybody is dangerous for a basket, defenses cannot be relaxed. Everybody needs to be engaged.”

Read more here: Ethan J. Skolnick: Uneven Miami Heat loses to Grizzlies, eager to put 2015 in past

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Goran calling the team out a little bit for losing their way offensively

“When everybody is getting their shots, then we’re dangerous,” Dragic said. “Then I feel sometimes in the fourth quarter, it’s like 1 on 5, 2 on 5, just pick-and-roll in the middle and that’s it. It’s kind of hard. But when everybody gets their rhythm, when everybody is dangerous for a basket, defenses cannot be relaxed. Everybody needs to be engaged.”

Read more here: Ethan J. Skolnick: Uneven Miami Heat loses to Grizzlies, eager to put 2015 in past

sounds like a direct shot at wade and bosh to me

 

[Sauce Dab]

sounds like a direct shot at wade and bosh to me

It is but there's nothing anybody can do about it. They've seen it all in their HOF careers. They're the ones who should take the tough shots down the stretch. They aren't going to make them all but it happens . It's not like they're forcing everyone to pass them the ball