You got some nerve saying somebody dikk down someone throat you checking my other posts
So I guess you just missed this post since you wanna dikkride my other ones don't sit up here and front like that shyt was even a question who was the best Kobe use to hit clutch shots in the 4th but so did Horry Fish and Fox the whole clan BShaw game 7 against Portland
There was no debate Shaq was big brother and Kobe was little bro stop it. How the fukk Kobe make Shaq when Shaq made it top the finals before Kobe showed up are you fukking serious.How many playoff trips did pop have before Duncan came it's a simple fukking question answer it and even when Kobe came nikkas still lost for four years....Until you know who showed up
You are truly a dumb muthafukka I never said the poll was a joke I said the joke was you creating alternate profiles too catch up. No nikkas don't dislike Bean nikkas hate you bytch nikkas and your told that constantly and act like you don't know.
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Get the fukk outta here nikka came in the thread to lick Beans ass after a 1000 shots
I was readin other threads in the sports section which were all on the first page and saw you dikkridin Duncan hard, nobody was checkin your other posts stop bein a drama queen you just are in multiple threads capin for your man its hard to miss those posts.
Kobe hit the majority of the clutch shots you bringin up Horry and them shows you don't watch most Lakers games Kobe was the closer and main one who was clutch, you talkin guys hittin one last second shot I'm talkin doin it all 4th Quarter consistently.
There was a debate people in Laker nation were sayin it was Kobe's team and him and Shaq had a rift over who's team it was, if it was hands down Shaq's team they wouldn't have been beefin like that over the topic and so many people in LA wouldn't have been sayin Kobe was the best player.
Shaq didn't win a ring until Kobe came along trips to the finals don't mean shyt if you haven't won, you keep hangin onto Pop not winnin before Duncan which by that same logic you'd have to give Kobe credit for Shaq winnin since he didn't win until Kobe became a great player.
You just don't wanna admit that your own feeble argument applies to both you tryna create a double standard but you can't without showin your bias, the Lakers started winnin when Kobe became an elite player you want to give credit to Phil now yet are tryna take credit away from Pop once again contradictin your own argument.
You never said anythin about me "creatin alternate profiles" whatever that means you literally said "the poll shyt was a joke" in response to me sayin you goin this hard wit Duncan winnin the poll, I guess by "creatin alternate profiles" you tryna say that I'm behind every poster sayin Kobe had a better career cause you can't handle the idea that multiple people are in here arguin for Kobe.
nikkas on here clearly hate Kobe its you bytchmade Duncan stans and the LeBron stans that are the ones who stay downtalkin Kobe to fit your own agendas, you came into the thread to suck off Duncan I wasn't even talkin to you I was replyin to another Duncan stan when you rushed in to cape so you get the fukk outta here.
Shaq won mvp in 2000. Let that sink in. He won an mvp during the 3peat. If kobe was just as important during the 3peat, he would have won one too. hell even an finals mvp would have backed up your arguement but he didnt get any of those. Shaq took them all. So youre saying for 3 straight years, shaq got the easy match up in the finals? bullsh**. He was just the more important piece.
The game is deeper than you think. while Shaq was getting all of the opponents defensive focus, kobe was able to get the numbers he got. I remember shaq constantly getting doubled and tripled.
I wouldnt say shaq was a made man but he was obviously the main threat on that lakers 3peat. The riff was more about their level of commitment to the game. Shaq ballooned in the offseason. Also kobe being more popular and shaq feeling slighted by that.
no one denies kobes great offensive skills, one of the best ever at putting the ball in the basket but when it comes to Duncan, its more than just points. He dominated teams defensively. Holds the record for most blocks in playoff history. Also most blocks in a finals series. Killed it on the boards. 3rd all time behind russell and wilt in the playoffs. Any Gm would take a great big man over a great 2 guard. They just add more to the game.
at you comparing a coach to a great player. pop aint playing in those games. You cant compare pop to shaq. you should compare pop to phil. and phils resume already had 6 rings when he came in to coach those lakers. Pops first game coaching was in 1997. They went straight to the lottery. not all his fault but he was a rookie head coach. Didnt even coach a full season before duncan came on board. There was no system. Duncan was the system. It was basically surround duncan with shooters and give him the ball on the block. simple stuff. when duncan was passed his prime is when they started to push the ball more. thats when pop put in a system. Having a smart all around player like Duncan allowed him to develop as a coach. The first game you watched of the spurs was probably in 2014.
The facts are facts. Take all of the bs out and we are left with this:
Championships
Duncan 5 = Kobe 5
Mvps
Duncan 2 >>> Kobe 1
Finals Mvps
Duncan 3 >>> Kobe 2
All Nba
Duncan 15 = Kobe 15
All Nba Defensive team
Duncan 15 >>> Kobe 12
those are all the categories that matter. I know you kobe stans want to add scoring titles and allstar games so bad but none of that matters
Smack, who is this nikka? You Duncan stans keep comin in quotin me when I'm not talkin to you, just shows how emotional yall gettin over what I'm sayin cause the truth hurts. He won an MVP in 2000 not 01 and 02 and I already pointed out how little credibility MVPs have when Nash won 2 yet Kobe and Shaq only have 1 each, everyone knows those East teams were weak and had no great Center to match up wit Shaq but they had guards like AI to cancel out Kobe which the teams in the West didn't have so that proves my point.
Shaq didn't have to work as hard on the other end of the floor cause he was guardin guys like Mutombo while Kobe had to guard AI, Kobe was chasin AI around on D then had to score on Offense while Shaq didn't have to worry about Mutombo since he ain't a threat and could focus on beastin Offensively. It was the exact opposite in the West where Kobe could take plays off on D and get his when they had the ball while Shaq had to guard Duncan/Robinson, and the underlyin reason him and Kobe had a rift was about who's team it was even you sayin Shaq felt slighted by Kobe bein more popular is about people sayin it was Kobe's team.
Most of those stats about Duncan came in his prime he ain't been beastin like that since before 09, and any GM would take Jordan a guard over a big man and would even take Kobe/LeBron over most Centers.
I'm comparin the argument yall usin in here if you wanna give Duncan credit cause Pop didn't win before him (even tho as you point out Pop was only coachin for one season on a tankin team before gettin Duncan) then by that logic Kobe gets credit for Shaq winnin cause Shaq was on an elite team that got to the Finals and didn't win until Kobe came along and showed his greatness.
There you go resortin to makin assumptions about me not watchin before 2014 in order to help your weak argument, obviously I at least watched the series they played the Lakers durin the 3peat years so that was a horrible attempt at an insult.
The facts are Duncan won those last 2 rings when he was passed his prime and not the best player on his team, he won his 5th ring as the 3rd best player on the Spurs Kobe was never that low on his championship teams and we all know if he was yall would be in here discreditin his rings. Kobe deserved more than that 1 MVP which is why they have no credibility cause the MVP is a popularity contest and the media hated Kobe most of his prime, by that logic Nash > Kobe and Shaq cause he has more MVPs and robbed both of them in consecutive years.
Funny how you pick and choose which stats to post you conveniently only mention Defensive stats where Duncan has the edge and not Offensive ones that Kobe is better at, the fact you say those are the only categories that matter shows your bias of course you think the other ones don't matter cause Kobe has better numbers than Duncan in those other categories. Scorin titles definitely matter dumbass you can't win the game unless you outscore your opponent:michaeljordanlaugh:scorin titles actually matter more than MVPs/All NBA/Defense cause its not an opinion based accomplishment no one gets robbed out of a scorin title tryna lump that in wit stats of an exhibition game makes you lose all credibility.
@ Scratch that, then you link me to a poll from the LA fukking times with 3,700 votes? What a shocker, Kobe won a poll in his own city. The best part is he barely won it
I know why you said "scratch that" by the way
He couldn't even win Cali or PA
I knew you'd post that same graphic you always post when you dikkride Duncan, that poll was taken right after Duncan won his 5th ring of course the prisoners of the moment would vote for him completely ignorin the fact that he was the 3rd best player on that team.
@ postin a Young Homo Thug gif as some sort of "ether".
Where his ass went 6-24 and Pau and Metta had to save his ass
Franchise still intact Phil Dr.Buss was even still alive got bailed out by Metta
