“Kevin Durant saved your legacy”. Isaiah Thomas on Draymond’s podcast

[JYoung24]

They won while dray was there and after he came back it isn’t no play that game facts are facts

They lost momentum and iggys back broke down steph was playing hurt too

 

[JYoung24]

CONTEXT MATTERS....

DENVER WITH NO MURRAY

MEMPHIS WITH NO JA

WEAK ASS DALLAS TEAM
THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE SNIFFED A WCF

YOUNG DUMB ASS CELTICS TEAM

IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF THEM
RUNNING INTO THAT YOUNG KINGS TEAM
LAST YR...

SECOND THEY RAN INTO BRON AGAIN
THEY LOST.



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Foh with that Bron shyt the Lakers had a way better team lebron wasn't even the best player on the court

 

[JYoung24]

Be that as it may he was still the best player on the floor by a wide margin.

No he wasn't

 

[JYoung24]

Ppl too comfortable disrespecting KD. Glad Zeke helped shut some of that up.

Going to GS was a weak move, but they recruited him, and he went to the best team and was the best player. There are maybe only 3 or 4 squads all time more talented than that GS team.

He was not the best player on the warriors

 

[JYoung24]

We doing would’ve could’ve now?

I could say if the warriors won the chip in that 73-9 season KD would’ve still signed and the dubs would have been on their 5th chip going for 6 without KD.. would that still make his responsible for Steph legacy?

That's a fact he was going to the warriors regardless they were already talking to him during the season

 

[JYoung24]

Warriors core had been healthy and starting together for two full seasons. The Cavs had played their starting lineup together like 30 games and just switched their coach in midseason. They had a LOT more room for growth than the Warriors did, as you saw when the Warriors really didn't get any better outside of adding KD while the Cavs looked far more fluid in the 2017 playoffs than in 2016.

Do you really think the Cavs were going to come back and score just 89 and 77 in the first two Finals games again? Do you think Kevin Love was going to average 8ppg on 36% shooting and 26% from 3pt again? Were Shumpert, Delly, and Mo going to combine for 16-54 shooting (29%) and 6-26 from 3pt (23%) again? Warriors fans are always so myopic, they continuously focus on their own injuries (Bogut, Iggy) without noticing the Cavs (Mosgov, Shump, Love) were just as injured or more. Y'all focus on Harrison Barnes shooting like ass without noticing that Love, Shump, Delly, and Mo ALL shot like ass for the Cavs.

Harrison Barnes was a good player, but he wasn't going to be good enough for the Warriors to beat a healthy Cavs team. They needed an all-star level SF, like a Jimmy Butler or a Paul George, or they were going to lose to the Cavs again and it wasn't going to be as close the next time.



It's like y'all forget how much the Warriors struggled with the Cavs in 2015 and that was just LeBron and trash.

They did not struggle in 2015 they make some adjustments and blew them out 4 games straight

 

[JYoung24]

1. Yall didn't beat LeBron in the Finals....which is the argument. Yall didn't prove anything.
2. I never seen a franchise tear down one of their players like this
3. Yall called KD. KD didn't call yall.
4. Yall had no answer for LeBron at SF. KD was that answer. Even if yall picked up someone "slightly better" than Harrison Barnes, it wouldn't have mattered. Bron would have dropped 40 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists and 3 blocks and yall would've had no one to defend him. You needed a KD, a Kawhi Leonard or maybe a Jimmy Butler. An elite 6"7, 6"8, 6"9 SF. And saying this proves Zeke's point.

None of what you saying is true

 

[Harry B]

This will be talked on forever but one thing is for sure, KD made them an unstoppable team.

But people always want that simple analysis of not replacing said player with someone else. Like if Pippen didn’t play in the bulls Jordan wouldn’t have won more than 2. As if he wouldn’t go out and get someone else. If Kobe didn’t have Gasol. Etc. They didn’t necessarily need the two best shooters in the game to win back to backs, but it’s obvious that they thought that they needed additional resources

 

[Braman]

He was not the best player on the warriors

It’s complicated talking KD vs Steph on that team, but the best way to put it is this:

Have we seen Steph struggle in the finals, or in key games, or in key stretches, where even as the best shooter ever he just hasn’t can’t get his shot to fall? Yes. They even proactively tried to get him finals mvp but he was off

Conversely, did we see that with KD? No.

The ngga is 7ft. It’s cheating. Ain’t no struggle. Go pull up his playoff or finals logs. It’s gon read like he’s a robot: 30,32,30,27,30,35,28….there is no fall off. Why? Bc the ngga is 7ft

Meanwhile Steph is gon have the inevitable off games and a 21 here and a 18 there. Still to this day. Even before he took over the Olympics he struggled a few games. Just comes with the territory of being a small guard. Had 14 in one finals in 2017 and 11 in one in 2018 and that cost him FMVP. That’s how thin the margin of error is vs KD. So there is no argument for Steph being better than KD when they were together, even tho Steph is better all time. Hence it’s complicated

 

[JYoung24]

It’s complicated talking KD vs Steph on that team, but the best way to put it is this:

Have we seen Steph struggle in the finals, or in key games, or in key stretches, where even as the best shooter ever he just hasn’t can’t get his shot to fall? Yes. They even proactively tried to get him finals mvp but he was off

Conversely, did we see that with KD? No.

The ngga is 7ft. It’s cheating. Ain’t no struggle. Go pull up his playoff or finals logs. It’s gon read like he’s a robot: 30,32,30,27,30,35,28….there is no fall off. Why? Bc the ngga is 7ft

Meanwhile Steph is gon have the inevitable off games and a 21 here and a 18 there. Still to this day. Even before he took over the Olympics he struggled a few games. Just comes with the territory of being a small guard. Had 14 in one finals in 2017 and 11 in one in 2018 and that cost him FMVP. That’s how thin the margin of error is vs KD. So there is no argument for Steph being better than KD when they were together, even tho Steph is better all time. Hence it’s complicated

Kevin got to play one on one when he was with steph kd is the best one on one player in the game and he got to do what he does best when he was with steph that's why he looked like he was better but he wasn't defenses didn't treat him like he was they still treated steph like he was

 

[Braman]

Kevin got to play one on one when he was with steph kd is the best one on one player in the game and he got to do what he does best when he was with steph that's why he looked like he was better but he wasn't defenses didn't treat him like he was they still treated steph like he was

We get all they but think about what you’re saying; Steph can be planned against, mitigated,defended into a bad or subpar game. Bc he’s a small guard, it’s inevitable. You can’t say that about KD. Bc he can do everything guards can but he’s 7ft

Go back to their finals without each other. Steph struggled against Matthew delavadova. Don’t matter how long it lasted, he struggled. And then was just off in games in 2016

Meanwhile KD’s finals vs miami: 36,32,28,25,32. Robots don’t struggle. That’s the difference