In the other thread, where my LWO brehs @A Man Called Hawk and @JKFrazier , mentioned that Ray Allen had beef with Kobe...I wanted to expand on their feud a little bit by providing some links from the Seattle Times back in 2004 on it.
Notebook: Allen-Kobe feud fuels exhibition
By Percy Allen
Seattle Times staff reporter
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SAN DIEGO — If Ray Allen were more succinct when answering questions, his friends say, then perhaps the Sonics guard might avoid uncomfortable confrontations like his one tonight against the Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant.
But Allen is anything but succinct, and his comments after Seattle's only exhibition victory two weeks ago, in which he questioned Bryant's leadership, enraged Bryant to the point where he issued a somewhat amusing threat.
According to a Lakers team source, Bryant telephoned Allen days ago and told him, "I'm gonna bust your ass," in anticipation of their 7:30 p.m. exhibition at the San Diego Sports Arena.
After yesterday's practice, Allen denied receiving such a message from Bryant, and before last night's game against Phoenix in Las Vegas, the Lakers guard scoffed when asked about the rumor.
"Don't even put me and dude in the same breath," he told a reporter.
Their denials notwithstanding, an otherwise meaningless exhibition in a non-NBA city has suddenly been infused with a little bit of intrigue because of the budding rivalry between the stars.
"I hope he plays me hard," Allen said. "I would like to think that he's been doing that already because when I play against him, I go hard at him whether it was something that's been said in the newspaper or whatever.
"That mentality doesn't change. I know it doesn't for me, and I'm quite sure he feels the same. But if he's extra motivated then he should know that I don't care what goes on in L.A. I could(n't) care less. ... My focus is on this team right here."
Allen acknowledged that in their last meeting, Bryant knocked him in the jaw with what appeared to be an inadvertent elbow. They not only exchanged elbows but volleyed verbal jabs that ranged from playful barbs to ugly insults.
Allen conceded the individual battle (he scored 25 points and Bryant had 35) but his team claimed an 87-80 victory.
"That part of the game, the way guys go at each other, has changed from when I first got into the league," said Allen, who was selected in the 1996 draft along with Bryant. "There's always been trash talking, but man, it's gotten so personal now. And Kobe, he talks trash with the best of them."
The war of words is nothing new for Bryant, who is verbally feuding with former teammate Shaquille O'Neal. As for Allen, he has received threats of violence from former teammates Glenn Robinson and Tim Thomas.
"I've had guys talk about me as a basketball player, and I'm OK with that," Allen said. "Whether I should be an All-Star or not or just other things. ... So this latest thing with Kobe, well, that's just funny. You know what it is, it's childish."
Notebook: Allen-Kobe feud fuels exhibition
By Percy Allen
Seattle Times staff reporter
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SAN DIEGO — If Ray Allen were more succinct when answering questions, his friends say, then perhaps the Sonics guard might avoid uncomfortable confrontations like his one tonight against the Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant.
But Allen is anything but succinct, and his comments after Seattle's only exhibition victory two weeks ago, in which he questioned Bryant's leadership, enraged Bryant to the point where he issued a somewhat amusing threat.
According to a Lakers team source, Bryant telephoned Allen days ago and told him, "I'm gonna bust your ass," in anticipation of their 7:30 p.m. exhibition at the San Diego Sports Arena.
After yesterday's practice, Allen denied receiving such a message from Bryant, and before last night's game against Phoenix in Las Vegas, the Lakers guard scoffed when asked about the rumor.
"Don't even put me and dude in the same breath," he told a reporter.
Their denials notwithstanding, an otherwise meaningless exhibition in a non-NBA city has suddenly been infused with a little bit of intrigue because of the budding rivalry between the stars.
"I hope he plays me hard," Allen said. "I would like to think that he's been doing that already because when I play against him, I go hard at him whether it was something that's been said in the newspaper or whatever.
"That mentality doesn't change. I know it doesn't for me, and I'm quite sure he feels the same. But if he's extra motivated then he should know that I don't care what goes on in L.A. I could(n't) care less. ... My focus is on this team right here."
Allen acknowledged that in their last meeting, Bryant knocked him in the jaw with what appeared to be an inadvertent elbow. They not only exchanged elbows but volleyed verbal jabs that ranged from playful barbs to ugly insults.
Allen conceded the individual battle (he scored 25 points and Bryant had 35) but his team claimed an 87-80 victory.
"That part of the game, the way guys go at each other, has changed from when I first got into the league," said Allen, who was selected in the 1996 draft along with Bryant. "There's always been trash talking, but man, it's gotten so personal now. And Kobe, he talks trash with the best of them."
The war of words is nothing new for Bryant, who is verbally feuding with former teammate Shaquille O'Neal. As for Allen, he has received threats of violence from former teammates Glenn Robinson and Tim Thomas.
"I've had guys talk about me as a basketball player, and I'm OK with that," Allen said. "Whether I should be an All-Star or not or just other things. ... So this latest thing with Kobe, well, that's just funny. You know what it is, it's childish."
You didn't have to do him like that 
