Kobe on Kanye: :dahell: are you talking about??

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Right, and this is exactly what his real point was, not the whole "slavery" comment that the media forced down all of our throats to cloud over what he was really saying.

Letting the media and popular public opinion cloud your judgement instead of doing the real work of thinking for yourself.

"fukk him because he's a c00n so I don't want to hear anything he has to say."

So why do you consider him a c00n if he really didn't make the slavery comment in the manner that the media tried to make it seem like?

Is it because of the MAGA hat?

Because if you watched the rest of the TMZ interview I just posted, or the Charlamagne interview, he explained that as well.

He doesn't give a fukk about politics, he rocked the hat to take over the negative connotations, just like he tried to do with the rebel flag years ago, and because he rocks with the fact that an outsider like Trump was able to force his way into the highest level of political office, just like Kanye is trying to do in the fashion world.

Did you actually listen to anything he had to say, or did you just fall in line with the popular opinion to fit in?


he's been doing c00nish shyt for a while and people noticed. This recent incident wasn't the first time their was outrage/suspicions about Ye being a c00n, this was just the climax of it because of how vulgar his comments were and his dikkriding of Trump. So the whole thing just exploded. But the whole Ye being a c00n thing isn't just something that came up because of this recent stuff.
 

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Yup. The ones who believe “free thinking” is automatically a sign of intelligence and philosophical courage when its nothing more than a fukk boy thats trying hard to be fake deep.

Its not bad if a group of us all come to that same conclusion.

Nobody said "free thinking" was automatically a sign of intelligence.

It's bad when a group of us come to the same conclusion when it's obvious that most of the group went off of misinformation, and didn't take the time to really listen to what was said and the ultimate point being made.

Instead of passive aggressively calling me a "fukk boy" without actually addressing me, how about you explain why Kanye is a c00n if he didn't really make the slavery comment in the manner that most people think he did, or if he didn't wear the MAGA hat as support for the Republican party or necessarily to promote Donald Trump.
 

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he's been doing c00nish shyt for a while and people noticed. This recent incident wasn't the first time their was outrage/suspicions about Ye being a c00n, this was just the climax of it because of how vulgar his comments were and his dikkriding of Trump. So the whole thing just exploded. But the whole Ye being a c00n thing isn't just something that came up because of this recent stuff.
Hes a fukkboy. He met DT at Trump Tower and still wasnt allowed to perform at his inauguration because they were looking for more “American” music. :mjlol:

Yet hes still riding for him.
 

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he's been doing c00nish shyt for a while and people noticed. This recent incident wasn't the first time their was outrage/suspicions about Ye being a c00n, this was just the climax of it because of how vulgar his comments were and his dikkriding of Trump. So the whole thing just exploded. But the whole Ye being a c00n thing isn't just something that came up because of this recent stuff.

So give me an example.

What did you find so vulgar about his comments after listening to the interview again (if you did)?

When did he dikk ride Donald Trump?
 

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Nobody said "free thinking" was automatically a sign of intelligence.

It's bad when a group of us come to the same conclusion when it's obvious that most of the group went off of misinformation, and didn't take the time to really listen to what was said and the ultimate point being made.

Instead of passive aggressively calling me a "fukk boy" without actually addressing me, how about you explain why Kanye is a c00n if he didn't really make the slavery comment in the manner that most people think he did, or if he didn't wear the MAGA hat as support for the Republican party or necessarily to promote Donald Trump.
No...youre the type who buys into the idea that black people are incapable of collectively making correct assessments.

Nobody needs to hear your tired talking down to.

Kanye is a clown in need of the white gaze even when it spits at him.
 

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No...youre the type who buys into the idea that black people are incapable of collectively making correct assessments.

Is that right?

So you were able to make this assumption based off the fact that I won't fall in line with popular opinion on another Black man being a c00n without solid evidence to back that claim up?

Y'all throw that "c00n" word around way to easily around here and I don't feel you understand just how damning a claim that is to make about another Black man, especially if it isn't really warranted.
 

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Is that right?

So you were able to make this assumption based off the fact that I won't fall in line with popular opinion on another Black man being a c00n without solid evidence to back that claim up?

Y'all throw that "c00n" word around way to easily around here and I don't feel you understand just how damning a claim that is to make about another Black man, especially if it isn't really warranted.
Yes that right. You can go language police all you want, but I can give a fukk what fall in line rubbish you come up with. This dude is a clown and cant broadly articulate his points. He wasnt even aware of the travel ban until TI told him and admits to not reading much and here you are acting as if he gave some deep take while vilfying folks as being caught up in groupthink. No....we all come from different walks of life and happen to know ignorant c00ning when we hear it.
 

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So give me an example.

What did you find so vulgar about his comments after listening to the interview again (if you did)?

When did he dikk ride Donald Trump?

lol are you serious...

-dikkrides the shyt out of European designers going on radio rants begging euro designers to work with him
-Went on a twitter rant begging cacs to give him money instead of donating to african causes
-Fed ribs to a cac in a limo while his wife recorded it
-Went on a rant at a concert talking shyt to black people in front of a mostly white audience
-Went to visit Trump at Trump Tower to take photos even after Trump had been established as a racist piece of shyt (dikkRIDING)
-Wearing MAGA hats and spitting WS rhetoric (dikkRIDING TRUMP)

also, there's a disconnect here. You keep asking if I listened to the full interviews. I dont sit around for 2 hours listening to c00ns speak to each other. The clips that came out showed me enough. The problem is you actually believe all the crap Kanye says so you spend 2 hours watching an interview and thinking he's genuine. When in reality he's just saying a lot of smart dumb shyt while Charlamagne eats it up.

Trump's a white supremacist and Ye fukks with him.....thats all needs to be said.

It's becoming a REAL popular talking point now with WS cacs/suspected cacs/c00ns/etc....where they try to shame black people for attempting to have a consensus when it comes to white supremacists and those who enable them. They came at us with this "oh do black people all have to think the same?" and all that group think shyt. That's BULLshyt. Black people stay having different opinions about a whole lot of shyt. This forum is a great example, there's quite a few blacks here and we argue about sports, rap, bytches, politics all day. Walk into a barbershop there's nikkas all arguing/debating about different shyt. Black people as a whole DO NOT engage in "groupthink." The ONLY thing that black people are trying to have a collective feeling about is who these racist cacs are and which blacks folks are actively defending and enabling that shyt. And there's NOTHING wrong with that.

Dont let none of these cornball nikkas come at you with that group think or liberal plantation shyt.......that doesnt have shyt to do with not liking racist cacs like Trump and questioning guys like Kanye for fukking with him while criticizing black people in the process.
 

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lol are you serious...

-dikkrides the shyt out of European designers going on radio rants begging euro designers to work with him
-Went on a twitter rant begging cacs to give him money instead of donating to african causes
-Fed ribs to a cac in a limo while his wife recorded it
-Went on a rant at a concert talking shyt to black people in front of a mostly white audience
-Went to visit Trump at Trump Tower to take photos even after Trump had been established as a racist piece of shyt (dikkRIDING)
-Wearing MAGA hats and spitting WS rhetoric (dikkRIDING TRUMP)

also, there's a disconnect here. You keep asking if I listened to the full interviews. I dont sit around for 2 hours listening to c00ns speak to each other. The clips that came out showed me enough. The problem is you actually believe all the crap Kanye says so you spend 2 hours watching an interview and thinking he's genuine. When in reality he's just saying a lot of smart dumb shyt while Charlamagne eats it up.

Trump's a white supremacist and Ye fukks with him.....thats all needs to be said.

It's becoming a REAL popular talking point now with WS cacs/suspected cacs/c00ns/etc....where they try to shame black people for attempting to have a consensus when it comes to white supremacists and those who enable them. They came at us with this "oh do black people all have to think the same?" and all that group think shyt. That's BULLshyt. Black people stay having different opinions about a whole lot of shyt. This forum is a great example, there's quite a few blacks here and we argue about sports, rap, bytches, politics all day. Walk into a barbershop there's nikkas all arguing/debating about different shyt. Black people as a whole DO NOT engage in "groupthink." The ONLY thing that black people are trying to have a collective feeling about is who these racist cacs are and which blacks folks are actively defending and enabling that shyt. And there's NOTHING wrong with that.

Dont let none of these cornball nikkas come at you with that group think or liberal plantation shyt.......that doesnt have shyt to do with not liking racist cacs like Trump and questioning guys like Kanye for fukking with him while criticizing black people in the process.

"-dikkrides the shyt out of European designers going on radio rants begging euro designers to work with him
-Went on a twitter rant begging cacs to give him money instead of donating to african causes
-Fed ribs to a cac in a limo while his wife recorded it
-Went on a rant at a concert talking shyt to black people in front of a mostly white audience
-Went to visit Trump at Trump Tower to take photos even after Trump had been established as a racist piece of shyt (dikkRIDING)
-Wearing MAGA hats and spitting WS rhetoric (dikkRIDING TRUMP)"

You call it dikkriding European designers, I call it him making a plea to financiers to help him achieve his dream of becoming a high level fashion designer/fashion house, something that no Black man has been able to do.

Same thing that any creative/business owner does, he was just already famous and made his pleas publicly after those same Europeans tried to shut him out of the industry.

He actually called out the cacs trying to shut him out by name.

He was trying to crash the doors and be a pioneer and got killed for it by his own people.

Not c00ning.

I don't know what context the whole rib thing was under, I've never saw the video, but that is admittedly suspect.

The rant at the concert included cacs and black folks, he actually called out more white folks than black folks.

Not c00ning.

The visit to Trump at Trump Towers...

This one always baffles me as to why folks get so upset about it.

Why wouldn't a person of influence not want to meet with the incoming President to get their voice heard if they're able to?

Especially if they felt like this person might not have Black folks best interests at heart.

We have no idea what they talked about, we just saw a picture.

Not c00ning.

I've pointed out two interviews where he explained the MAGA hat, but if you've already made up your mind that you have no desire to listen to anything he has to say after letting others make up your mind for you (you saw the clips :mjlol:), we really have nothing else to discuss.

Peace though.
 
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I'm not pretending anything.

I actually listened to what he was saying instead of getting fake outraged to fit in with everyone else.

If you actually listened to what he said with an open mind, you would hear him say clear as day he's talking about mental slavery and isn't necessarily talking about black folks.

It's amazing how many people are STILL upset over their echo chamber guided perception of what he said, and won't even take the time to listen to his actual comments.

We get it.... He misspoke about a very sensitive subject. I am not completely in agreement with his sentiment, but at least I watched to gain better understanding. The few seconds where he said something that came across "wrong" doesn't just cancel the 30+ minutes of relatively logical conversation he had.

Note I said logical, not necessarily factual or popular, but all the stuff about him being insane is unwarranted. There's a reason Adidas won't drop him over such comments.

Then again I forget Jim Brown somehow has become a "c00n" to most fake outraged people these days.... Nothing should surprise me at this point
 

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It's amazing how many people are STILL upset over their echo chamber guided perception of what he said, and won't even take the time to listen to his actual comments.

We get it.... He misspoke about a very sensitive subject. I am not completely in agreement with his sentiment, but at least I watched to gain better understanding. The few seconds where he said something that came across "wrong" doesn't just cancel the 30+ minutes of relatively logical conversation he had.

Note I said logical, not necessarily factual or popular, but all the stuff about him being insane is unwarranted. There's a reason Adidas won't drop him over such comments.

Then again I forget Jim Brown somehow has become a "c00n" to most fake outraged people these days.... Nothing should surprise me at this point

It's by design breh.

His main point during the TMZ interview was how we have become so caught up in media driven talking points and snap judgements based off clips of information, that we have forgotten how to think for ourselves and have become "mentally enslaved", only for his comments during that interview to be used against him using media driven talking points, based off of clips of his comments during the interview.

It's fascinating and sad at the same time when you really think about it.

I know Harvey is somewhere laughing his ass off watching this whole shyt play out.
 
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