Kotaku on New Xbox 720/Durango Games Being Behind 6 Months .. .Update!

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http://kotaku.com/about-microsoft-being-six-months-behind-with-the-next-486212937 :mindblown:

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First, bear in mind that we're at least six months—probably even a little bit longer—out from the release of the new Xbox, code-named Durango. We're not even going to be getting official word about it until May 21, most likely. We'd heard official word about the PS4 in February. Did that alone indicate that Sony was ahead? Not necessarily.

The impression my Kotaku colleagues and I have long had was that the next consoles from Microsoft and Sony are going down roughly parallel paths and have both been in the works for a while. We've been hearing specifics—not just vague plans but details shared between Microsoft and outsiders—about this new Xbox system since early 2012. We broke news of the codenames for the next Xbox (Durango) and PlayStation (Orbis) in February and March of that year, respectively. While the latter name actually appeared online the December before, the impression we've long had is that Durango and Orbis were aiming for the same part of the calendar. Microsoft and Sony both want you to be able to buy a new console as soon as this Christmas.

Over the past year, I've heard from industry sources who've been variously impressed with Sony and Microsoft's plans, though, of late, Sony gets the better buzz and Microsoft is deemed as somewhat scattered. Frankly, I'd be surprised if Sony wasn't scattered in its own way but, yes, lately, Microsoft is generating a little more head-shaking among my and my colleagues' industry sources. You can see some of that articulated in the chunk I lifted from my Monday article about Respawn.

With the Orbis and Durango on nearly parallel tracks, comparisons for people who know about both consoles are easy to make. PS4 controllers start popping up at development studios in February, but Durango ones show up in March/April? Easy comparison to make.

Microsoft seems less certain about how to proceed, sources tell us. They don't seem as ready for a launch as you'd expect them to be. It sort of makes sense, if you think of Microsoft riding high on the Kinect-fueled success of the Xbox 360 in recent years. Still, they did launch their last console, the 360, in 2005, a year before Sony and Nintendo's PS3 and Wii.

One reliable source compares Microsoft's current Durango moment to the situation with the Wii U, which launched without a key promised launch service and with a scant number of exclusive games. Remember the Wii U? Expect something kind of like that for the next Xbox, they say. At least in terms of how it's looking now. So much can change. And it's never easy to make a console. I'd expect all console launches to be like the Wii U's. Because they always are.

That's the thing to remember: these consoles never launch all that well. They always launch with a tiny number of games worth having and a great amount of ports and padded content to convince you that there are enough games out on day one to merit that day one purchase. This happened with the Xbox 360, with the PS3, with the Wii U. This is how it goes. The console makers' marketing team tries to play it cool, but these consoles come in hot. You wind up, as I did, with a brand-new Xbox 360 and the only game you want to play on it is a retro-arcade game called Geometry Wars. A year later, at last, the likes of Oblivion and Gears of War have blown you away. But they're not there at the start. Nor are many of the services, like Netflix, that the console is known for.

All that said, the "six month" thing I reported has stuck out. What's it mean? It means, as best I understand it, that we'll see Durango launch like the Wii U did. It means developers—internally and third-party—haven't had a ton of time with development hardware. It means that, as I've been told, the games aren't where they need to be and even the machine's operating system isn't up to snuff yet. (Update: To expand on this a bit since I noticed it grabbed some attention: in early April, a top source told me Durango devkits were running Windows RT and used the same APIs for opening files and creating threads as the OSes for Microsoft Surface and Windows Phone 8 do. Microsoft is an OS company, so assume they'll get that right. While this is only single-sourced to one top source who I trust, I'm mentioning it in this addendum to add a little more color. It's not that Microsoft doesn't have an OS in the works for Durango; it's that, as with most other things related to the system, they're still sorting out how to get it to do everything they'd like the system to do. This seems normal for at least some point in a console's development cycle; whether it's where they should be now is another story.)

Nintendo may have some problems unique to Nintendo, but if you thought Wii U's ungraceful launch was just a Nintendo thing, think again. (Christmas 2013 with a maturing Wii U and newborn PS4 and next-gen Xbox just might look a little different than Nintendo naysayers expected.)

On May 21, Microsoft will at least probably catch up to Sony in terms of publicly, officially-disclosed information. They may, by then, have a clear message that they can express about everything from online requirements to Xbox Live's new systems to the presence or lack of backwards compatibility for older games. Right now you can safely assume that things are a little confused and stressful on the Durango project. This doesn't mean Durango will suck. It doesn't mean PS4 will automatically be better. But it may affect what we're told by Microsoft, what kind of games will show up on launch day and whether the next-gen of gaming will be something you'll want to get involved with this year.

As we know more, we'll let you know. Please remember, console launches tend to be more hype than happiness. It's reasonable to keep your long-term expectations for the next Xbox or any other console high, if you'd like, but in a new-console year, you'd best set your short-term expectations low.
 

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If Mr. Somebody/Mowgli is President of PSO (Playstation Stan Organization) then I would like to nominate Rekka as Cheif of staff.

What a glorious post.

Why my friends....there is an old proverb that basically says the least prepared are more likely to fail.


Thank you Rekka.
























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Microsoft is going to release a portable media hub and drop the games later. They just want to be on the shelf with sony who is coming out like pew pew pew pew pewwwww. Its over. RIP Microsoft. Respawn Entertainment cant save them.

I hear the new xbox is HDMI only. Thankfully the xbots saved themselves from the always online debacle and now xbox is always online sometimes. This HDMI only thing could CRUSH them in impoverished markets. :russ: So disorganized this gen.
 

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The same rumors we all accept as true about the specs, said that Xbox was ahead of ps4


Who should we believe? :ohhh:

PS4 planning started in 2008 we found out. Initially it was thought the Xbox was ahead planning wise, but maybe not? :yeshrug:

I just don't want another shytty games launch. :snoop:

Thankfully Watch Dogs, BF4, and whatever 1st party Sony exclusives they release will hold me down. Apparently Sony has their launch shyt set.

Hopefully we'll hear the same on the 21st with MS. doubt we'll see a Gears. no Halo game please. I do expect a new Forza though. I think Ryse will flop review wise.
 

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Microsoft is going to release a portable media hub and drop the games later. They just want to be on the shelf with sony who is coming out like pew pew pew pew pewwwww. Its over. RIP Microsoft. Respawn Entertainment cant save them.

I hear the new xbox is HDMI only. Thankfully the xbots saved themselves from the always online debacle and now xbox is always online sometimes. :russ: So disorganized this gen.

Thats why when they interviewed the guy for watchdogs he didnt know if the Infinity version would release on the same date.



With each new development Meach's hole in his heart because that much bigger in circumfrence.


Don't worry Meach, playstation can heal you.
 

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PS4 planning started in 2008 we found out. Initially it was thought the Xbox was ahead planning wise, but maybe not? :yeshrug:

I just don't want another shytty games launch. :snoop:

Thankfully Watch Dogs, BF4, and whatever 1st party Sony exclusives they release will hold me down. Apparently Sony has their launch shyt set.

Hopefully we'll hear the same on the 21st with MS. doubt we'll see a Gears. no Halo game please. I do expect a new Forza though. I think Ryse will flop review wise.

At this point the lack of concrete ps4 exclusives/info is more concerning. The ps4 was revealed months ago and at this point we know more about Xbox features and games, yet the console hasn't been revealed yet.

In my opinion this article is just sensationalism for hits, because in reality a console has NEVER launched with a bunch of quality exclusive games. Both will have a bunch of third party multiplats and one or two exclusives.
 

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Thats why when they interviewed the guy for watchdogs he didnt know if the Infinity version would release on the same date.



With each new development Meach's hole in his heart because that much bigger in circumfrence.


Don't worry Meach, playstation can heal you.

:comeon: third party games will arrive at the same time on both systems as usual.
 

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Thats why when they interviewed the guy for watchdogs he didnt know if the Infinity version would release on the same date.



With each new development Meach's hole in his heart because that much bigger in circumfrence.


Don't worry Meach, playstation can heal you.

I try to tell meach playstation heals wounds but its like telling a kid santa clause isnt real, he doesnt believe you. Microsoft is mis managing their gaming legacy this gen and its sad to see them using moneyhatting as their primary source to stay competitive. PS4 is made for gamers, By gamers. This is something the suits at Microsoft can never understand because they only see their consumers as customers, and could care less about games.

Its so demonic, friend. :sitdown:
 

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I try to tell meach playstation heals wounds but its like telling a kid santa clause isnt real, he doesnt believe you. Microsoft is mis managing their gaming legacy this gen and its sad to see them using moneyhatting as their primary source to stay competitive. PS4 is made for gamers, By gamers. This is something the suits at Microsoft can never understand because they only see their consumers as customers, and could care less about games.

Its so demonic, friend. :sitdown:

It's funny how moneyhatting, a strategy pioneered by Sony, is now viewed in such a negative light by Sony heads.

If the ps3 had been more succesful then Sony wouldn't be being beat at their own moneyhatting game.
 

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:comeon: third party games will arrive at the same time on both systems as usual.

While Ubisoft already made it clear that it would be releasing its next open world action-adventure game for the PC, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Nintendo Wii U, and the Xbox 360, it still didn’t confirm whether or not Watch Dogs would be released for the next-gen Xbox (although then again, why would it leave it out?). In the official Watch Dogs world premiere gameplay trailer released today, Ubisoft tips that Watch Dogs will most likely head to the Xbox 720.



Whether or not the game will launch on the Xbox 720 the same day as the other consoles is still up in the air.
 

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It's funny how moneyhatting, a strategy pioneered by Sony, is now viewed in such a negative light by Sony heads.

If the ps3 had been more succesful then Sony wouldn't be being beat at their own moneyhatting game.

That was when sony was virutally unknown. THe use of obscene moneyhatting by microsoft comes from a position of weakness. Somethign you wouldnt expect them to be in at this stage in the game. At, sony, we're beyond using that as are our primary tool to market our products. I guess thats how you guys get down though, friend. Sad. Microsoft has no confidence in their product.
 

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While Ubisoft already made it clear that it would be releasing its next open world action-adventure game for the PC, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Nintendo Wii U, and the Xbox 360, it still didn’t confirm whether or not Watch Dogs would be released for the next-gen Xbox (although then again, why would it leave it out?). In the official Watch Dogs world premiere gameplay trailer released today, Ubisoft tips that Watch Dogs will most likely head to the Xbox 720.



Whether or not the game will launch on the Xbox 720 the same day as the other consoles is still up in the air.

:snoop: the Xbox 720 doesn't even exist yet. Ubisoft is still under NDA.
 
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