Yeah in terms of skills, kyrie is better. excluding passing
Westbrook is the better player still
But really Russ needs to up his handles
Cause when he can't speed pass u it's

in his isos
This sums it up. Kyrie is my favorite player, but Russ is a better overall player than him..slightly. Kyrie has much better ball skills though, with the exception of passing. He is by far the superior offensive player.
Westbrook is carrying his team to the playoffs, uncontested rebounds notwithstanding. Kyrie carried his teams to perpetual losing high lottery picks and even now the cavs have a losing record without LeBron in the lineup.
Russ is doing this now in his 8th year. He wasn't the same player in his first 3-5 seasons, but yall expecting a 19 year old Kyrie to lead the team with the worst record in the NBA the prior year straight to the playoffs.

Forget they won more games each year he was there, and just missed the playoffs the year before Bron arrived.....But really ask yourself this, what was your favorite point guard doing at 19, 20, and 21.......It prolly wasn't
leading talentless teams to the playoffs. Prolly wasn't even the best player on their teams. Nikkas setting the bar far Kyrie at a level they favorite pg didn't achieve.

That 's why that whole argument makes no sense unless you put it in perspective......Russ played with KD and Harden, he had a much better overall team. Was able to win earlier because he had help.(By the way, at this point Russ was the help, that was KD's team) You can't win without talent. Steph didn't win until he got help either. But yall hold it against Kyrie that he didn't win.....until he got help.....
