Ghpstface
Kanye West fan
Should have made a Powerpoint presentation with clip art and the ill transitions
Ladies: When does a man crossover to CREEP status in pursuing you?
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This.You being a creep 75% depends on if she finds you attractive or not.
I'm extremely aggressive with women, and I swear half the shyt I do would get me slapped if not for my height and quick reflexes
Larry Lambo
Superstar
There was a point in time (60-70 years ago), before women got equal rights and were able to make a living comparable to men, where over the top gestures liked this worked.
The risk of a man procreating with you and then leaving you was the biggest fear in dating, because there was not much of a safety net (no formal child support system, birth control wasn't regularly used, income opportunities for women were scarce). So when judging potential partners the amount of effort exerted by a man was a major factor. You could truly win over a woman by being chivalrous and proving that you felt passionately about her.
Times have changed and today's women have opportunities to make a living, they have child support, they have birth control/abortion to prevent that from occuring in the first place. So instead of choosing men based on how much effort he puts into it, they choose men based on the perceived value of the man and how he presents himself. The potential negative ramifications of choosing a man that isn't truly interested in marrying and raising a family are much lower. Chivalry has been replaced by demonstrating high value.
Most men inherently know this and have a lifetime of examples to validate this point. However, the media (and some people), still romanticize the knight in shining armor ideal from back in the day. Women still want a guy like that, but only AFTER they have already chosen to be with him. They can take the risk of choosing a man who doesn't put that level of effort before a relationship and hope that as the relationship develops he will show to her he is all about her. More importantly, not requiring a man to put in that level of effort, gives them the opportunity to have relations with higher value men. It's not a risky proposition to do so, as the likely scenario of getting pumped and dumped is not nearly as detrimental as it would have been years ago.
The risk of a man procreating with you and then leaving you was the biggest fear in dating, because there was not much of a safety net (no formal child support system, birth control wasn't regularly used, income opportunities for women were scarce). So when judging potential partners the amount of effort exerted by a man was a major factor. You could truly win over a woman by being chivalrous and proving that you felt passionately about her.
Times have changed and today's women have opportunities to make a living, they have child support, they have birth control/abortion to prevent that from occuring in the first place. So instead of choosing men based on how much effort he puts into it, they choose men based on the perceived value of the man and how he presents himself. The potential negative ramifications of choosing a man that isn't truly interested in marrying and raising a family are much lower. Chivalry has been replaced by demonstrating high value.
Most men inherently know this and have a lifetime of examples to validate this point. However, the media (and some people), still romanticize the knight in shining armor ideal from back in the day. Women still want a guy like that, but only AFTER they have already chosen to be with him. They can take the risk of choosing a man who doesn't put that level of effort before a relationship and hope that as the relationship develops he will show to her he is all about her. More importantly, not requiring a man to put in that level of effort, gives them the opportunity to have relations with higher value men. It's not a risky proposition to do so, as the likely scenario of getting pumped and dumped is not nearly as detrimental as it would have been years ago.
Women do creepy shyt too. The one's that are too shy to talk to you so they just sit there and stare
A had a girl call me ugly, yet she would always stare at me with the 'Ho Eyes'.
A had a girl call me ugly, yet she would always stare at me with the 'Ho Eyes'.
Ms.CuriousCat
All Star
Before I read the OP I was going to say the crossover is whether or not she likes the guy in the first place.
But now I change my answer, the crossover is at poster.
But now I change my answer, the crossover is at poster.
Trapperman Dave
Basil Fawty
Can't be overdoing 
all willie nille i do that out of fun but if i was seriously upsetting a female over it I would not do it. In real life i hate to come off that way because I know females have to deal with it everyday
all willie nille i do that out of fun but if i was seriously upsetting a female over it I would not do it. In real life i hate to come off that way because I know females have to deal with it everyday
The point where he loses his self respect. Dude should have stop pursuing at "I'll think about it."
VFib
All Star
If she liked him, she wouldn't have had to "think about it"
He should have moved on.
He should have moved on.
Larry Lambo
Superstar
Agree, but there is a sentiment out there that a man can "win over" a woman. I highly disagree with this philosophy, unless it's a very long period of time where a lot of variables have changed.
Hopefully, he has learned his lesson, and will realize that in today's world, women make the decision based on who you are, not on what you can do to "convince" her.
Tenchi Ryu
Ashtray B!tch
Must be niceI'm extremely aggressive with women, and I swear half the shyt I do would get me slapped if not for my height and quick reflexes
