LeBron advised the team on the changes, not Lue

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First of all, how the hell did you come to the conclusion they're banking on better perimeter D when neither Rose or Wade are great at staying in front of their man and running around screens?


they said so:comeon:



Lue believes Crowder is as valuable as Thomas and the first-round pick.

“For sure. He’s a big piece,” Lue said. “He’s starting, so he has to be pretty valuable. Make open shots, he’s physical, he’s tough, plays the right way, understands his role. You love to have guys like that. He brings us toughness and he can guard multiple positions.”

Lue said that will allow LeBron James to “rest and roam off the ball and also be our quarterback defensively.”

“Be that back line, be able to talk, communicate, telling guys when to switch and when to stay home,” Lue explained of James’ role. “Having [James] on the back line is good for us.”

Crowder has already found out what it’s like having James behind him.

“The first few days at practice he talked a lot,” Crowder said. “That’s a great thing that you have to have on defense and that helps me as a defender, knowing what’s behind me and him chirping and us being on the same page on the defensive end. It makes my job a lot easier. I never played with a guy who talked — I’m usually the one who is talking the most.”


Cavs notebook: Crowder says Lue introducing defensive sets for Warriors

As Crowder guards the tough perimeter matchup, a task he’s certainly familiar with, it gives James “a chance to rest and roam more off the ball”. Explaining James’ altered defensive role more in-depth, Lue says it gives James a chance “to be our quarterback defensively… To be able to talk, communicate. Telling guys when to switch. When to stay home. You know, he’s very smart. So having him on the back-line is good for us.”

In last year’s playoffs, James played a roamer role while the Cavs often trapped or blitzed screens up top, allowing him to use his size, athleticism and instincts to take errant passes down the length of the court. James, a terror in transition (when he’s moving at full speed with the ball in his hands period, really) was made more dangerous by his role in the defense. Now, instead of J.R. Smith guarding the opposing team’s best perimeter player, it’ll be Crowder. Smith has been a solid defensive player since his arrival in Cleveland, often taking on the task of guarding the opposing team’s biggest perimeter threat.

Indeed, while Paul George scored 28.0 points per game in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs last season, he only shot 38.6 percent from the field. DeMar Derozan scored 20.8 points per game on 42.6 percent shooting from the field, numbers that paled in comparison to his season average of 27.3 points per game (on 46.7 percent shooting from the field). Of course Smith wasn’t the only player guarding these two high-octane scorers but they were primarily his responsibility. Judging by their numbers and the Cavs sweeping both the Indiana Pacers and the Toronto Raptors, he did pretty well.

Crowder, a player who saved 4.7 defensive points (DPS) last year according to NBA Math (anything above 0 is considered above-average), is bigger, sturdier, has shown consistent focus and been a consistent force on the defensive end. Smith saved -16.7 defensive points last year (according to NBA Math) and the Cavs were still able to sweep their first two opponents in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

James was able to raise his steals per game from 1.2 in the regular season to 1.9 in the playoffs. In addition, he raised his defensive box plus/minus (DBPM) from 1.6 in the regular season to 4.2 in the playoffs. Finally, he was able to raise his points per game average from 26.4 in the regular season to 32.8 in the playoffs. All these were effects of James being able to rest and roam.

Against the Golden State Warriors, the Cavs were able to leave open Draymond Green and let his man roam defensively. Now, with Crowder, the Cavs will be able to stick a man on Kevin Durant and still James roam along with Love (assuming Love is guarding Green). Having James be there to direct Love, whose anticipation doesn’t often match up with his physical limitations, will help the team defense tremendously all season. Against the Warriors, having two free bodies to jump driving and passing lanes should bode well for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Just as Lue said.

According to Crowder, team defense, communication and outplaying their opponents will allow the team to be an effective defensive unit. The Cavs’ seem to be in a better position to be a solid defensive team than any season since James’ return.

Cleveland Cavaliers: LeBron James returns to roamer role on defense





Kyrie and JR were above average in this department, and showed up when it mattered most. And you can stop throwing strays at Kyrie, it's well beyond being corny.

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Save your copy and paste posts for the next man and answer the question.

How the hell did you come to the conclusion they're banking on better perimeter D when neither Rose or Wade are great at staying in front of their man and running around screens?

 

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Y'all act like the shyt ain't working though. It's hilarious. Y'all thought the Cavs were better off WITHOUT Bron running the shyt?

Breh the cavs aint done shyt their whole history till lebron showed up. This a team that made the conference finals 1 time in their whole history until Lebron showed up.

Idiots on here acting like the Cavs had a history like the Celtics until LB came to the team.
 
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Its going to be funny watching Lebron try to play roamer against the Warriors again. When KD is putting 30 on Crowder's head efficiently then what is he going to do? Lue can't do anything about that mismatch, but hope that KD injures his foot again. Steph, Klay. and Green are going to always have a chance to eat because of that KD outcome. This is not the 2016 finals because KD changes everything as we saw in the 2017 finals. You can't double or play roamer against them anymore.
 

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only thing i find is.. lebron is not good for morale..

JR, his biggest supporter looks particularly affected... hopefully winning changes things.

Bad for morale....:mjlol:.

Everywhere this dude goes he wins. Then on top of that he isn't a ball hog and loves to pass. Not to mention if you are his friend you a friend for life.....he will get you paid and taken care of.

Naw trust morale high as fukk with Lebron.
 

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Its going to be funny watching Lebron try to play roamer against the Warriors again. When KD is putting 30 on Crowder's head efficiently then what is he going to do? Lue can't do anything about that mismatch, but hope that KD injures his foot again. Steph, Klay. and Green are going to always have a chance to eat because of that KD outcome.


if you have 5 dudes on the court that can switch it will help more than having to depend on Tristan or Love getting stuck on green/durant

This is not the 2016 finals because KD changes everything as we saw in the 2017 finals. You can't double or play roamer against them anymore.

having crowder to throw at durant is better than having lebron waste all his energy on both offense and defense or having jefferson guard KD. Lebron can have energy late to guard KD if you don't burn him out in the first 3 qtrs


Or we can take a closer look at his bench stench which has not merely been “bad,” but historically putrid. How putrid? It’s worse than you think.

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LeBron James can't even afford to spend two minutes on the bench during the Finals.
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LEBRONS’s BENCH STENCH IN 5 STATS:

1) 12 Points in Two Minutes

The Korver play overshadowed Game 3’s most demoralizing example of LeBron’s bench burden that has lasted his whole career. LeBron played 46 of 48 minutes. Here were the incredible results:



Cavs were +7 points in 46 minutes with LeBron

Cavs were -12 points in 2 minutes with LeBron on the bench

LeBron sat for just two minutes: Game. Series. Rubber Match.


In the same game, Kevin Durant sat seven minutes, and the scoring differential remained the same.

LeBron's astonishing bench stench real reason for Finals losses
 

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Bad for morale....:mjlol:.

Everywhere this dude goes he wins. Then on top of that he isn't a ball hog and loves to pass. Not to mention if you are his friend you a friend for life.....he will get you paid and taken care of.

Naw trust morale high as fukk with Lebron.
I really just means the decisions he took for this season....
 
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if you have 5 dudes on the court that can switch it will help more than having to depend on Tristan or Love getting stuck on green/durant



having crowder to throw at durant is better than having lebron waste all his energy on both offense and defense or having jefferson guard KD. Lebron can have energy late to guard KD if you don't burn him out in the first 3 qtrs




LeBron's astonishing bench stench real reason for Finals losses

Lebron did not defend KD for most of the possessions. He had Jefferson, Bron, JR, Shumpert, and Love defending him. The Cavs got Crowder and Green, but it still won't work because you need defenders that have quick hands like Tony Allen or Ron Artest to contain KD. When he scores on those guys with ease then Cavs defensive scheme will implode like last year because they will count on Lebron to stop him and we all know what will happen again.
 

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Lebron did not defend KD for most of the possessions. He had Jefferson, Bron, JR, Shumpert, and Love defending him.

exactly my point. Outside of lebron, noone on the cavs was equipped to guard KD last season and because of that, this is where Crowder comes in. In the finals lebron couldn't go hard on defense with KD because he too much of a load to carry on offense. Crowder can now to take KD and then pass it off to lerbon in crucial moments.

The Cavs got Crowder and Green, but it still won't work because you need defenders that have quick hands like Tony Allen or Ron Artest to contain KD. When he scores on those guys with ease

the thing is, they can let Durant score to a degree but they can't let Curry, Iggy, Draymond etc...score big too.Now they will be better equipped to guard all players because of better switching

then Cavs defensive scheme will implode like last year because they will count on Lebron to stop him and we all know what will happen again.

as long as lebron is fresh in the 4th, he will better guard Durant that when he's totally drained because of not being able to sit
 
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