LeBron James is probably best 'all-around' player ever- Magic Johnson

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Magic Johnson says LeBron James is probably best 'all-around' player ever, but Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T.
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NBA legend Magic Johnson is uniquely qualified to weigh in on the seemingly endless debate about who is a better basketball player between Michael Jordan and LeBron James. Johnson battled against Jordan in the NBA for the better part of a decade, and squared off against him in the 1991 NBA Finals. He also played with Jordan on Team USA's "Dream Team" in 1992. Then, as an executive, Johnson helped the Lakersland James in free agency in 2018.

During a recent appearance on ESPN, Johnson had some high praise for James, as he said that the Lakers forward was probably the best "all-around" player of all time. However, Johnson said that when it comes to the greatest player ever, he's still going with Jordan.

"First of all, let's not take anything away from LeBron James," Johnson said. "Because LeBron James is a great basketball player, one of the all-time greatest that's ever played the game. LeBron James to me, when you think about all-around basketball players, he's probably the best of all time. An all-around basketball player. But when you want to say 'who's the greatest ever' it's still Michael Jordan."

While Johnson currently has Jordan ranked ahead of James on his own all-time list, he did leave the door open for James to potentially pass Jordan down the road, as James is still in the midst of his playing days.

"LeBron James' chapter is not closed yet," Johnson added. "He still has some basketball to play, so maybe he has a chance to catch [Jordan] later on if he can get some more championships under his belt. But at the end of the day, they're both great and they play they game the right way. They made their teammates better, they won championships, and thank god for LeBron because right now that's what we're watching. It's his time. It's his era, and he's dominating his era."

Due to his combination of size and court vision, James has often been compared with Johnson, so it's not surprising that Johnson is a big fan of LeBron's game. And while it is certainly interesting to consider how James and Jordan would have fared against each other as rivals, it's also equally as interesting to think how they might have fit together on the same squad. LeBron himself has pondered their fit together, and he thinks that he would have been an ideal teammate for Jordan due to his natural skill set -- a pass-first forward with excellent court vision and supreme athleticism.

"Me personally, the way I play the game -- team first -- I feel like my best assets work perfectly with Mike," James said in a video released Monday on Uninterrupted's YouTube channel. "Mike is an assassin. When it comes to playing the game of basketball, scoring the way he scored the ball, [then] my ability to pass, my ability to read the game plays and plays and plays in advance.

"I saw the things [Scottie Pippen] was able to do with Mike. I just think it would've been a whole 'nother level," James added. "Pip was one of my favorite players. ... It would've been a whole nother level with me being a point forward, with me being that point forward alongside of him during those Chicago runs."

In pointing out that James is still in the midst of his career -- and still playing at an elite level -- Johnson made a valid point. Any comparison between James and Jordan won't be complete -- or fair -- until James has hung up his signature Nike's. Before that happens, James could shift the entire conversation by hanging some more banners in Staples Center.
 
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https://www.thecoli.com/threads/where-does-the-idea-that-lebron-is-a-better-all-around-player-than-jordan-come-from.770800/page-1

Been done before. And this was my response back then on page 2:

Being complete - Offense / Defense / (Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals , Blocks)

Offense - Jordan holds the records for post ppg in both the REGULAR season and PLAYOFFS, the latter by an absolute mile.
He has 10 scoring titles. Lebron has 1. Nuff said.

Defense - This one is not even debatable. 9 time all first team NBA defense , tied for most in NBA history. multiple seasons of 200+ steals and 100+ blocks. First player and one of only 3 players to do that. Jordan did it in back to back seasons. 3 steals titles. NBA Defensive player of the year.
Lebron only had a relatively short peak as a very good defensive player and even in that peak , he was nowhere near the defensive player Jordan was who was a monster on defense for almost his entire career.

Offense + Defense - The fact that Jordan won the Defensive player of the year and Scoring title in the same year tells you everything you need to know. Of course no one else in NBA history has done that.

(Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks) - So Lebron has this reputation as a stat stuffer but some don't seem to know that Jordan is easily the greatest stat stuffer in modern NBA history.

Basketball Statistics and History | Basketball-Reference.com has a stat called "GameScore" - which analyzes every statistical component of individual games, from points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks , FG%, efficiency and FT%. all combined into a number. This link does a good job explaining it: Game Score | NBAstuffer

40 or more Gamescore for an individual game represents and all time great game. Guess who has by far the most in Modern NBA history ?
https://www.basketball-reference.co...at=game_score&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&order_by=pts

(Jordan has 56 total such games , Lebron has 26)

What that means is Jordan is the greatest stat stuffer and has the most impressive game stats of any player in the modern era (since steals and blocks were not accounted for going back to Wilt and Russell's era in the 60's)

Basketball is not just about Points, Rebounds and Assists in judging how "complete" or "all round" a player is. If that's the case, Larry Bird was a more all round player than Jordan.

Never mind, there are also positional differences between small forwards and shooting guards and what they contribute to the team.

Looking at the total package I presented above, Jordan wins in all of them over Lebron.

  • Offense - Jordan
  • Defense - Jordan
  • (Points, Rebonds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, FG%, FT%) - Jordan

Jordan is the most complete player of all time, clearly a better all round player than Lebron and its pretty clear if you actually know basketball and you've done some research.


------------------ Point is Its BS. These same Lebron fans won't then admit Oscar Robertson and Westbrick are better all round players than Lebron with Doncic to surpass him in a couple of years from now.
 
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