Lebron speaks that real on making super teams and being down '03:wow:

[James Dean]

I hate him with every fan fiber for ruining the game of basketball

Nice guy though,at least publically.

Man one man did not ruin the game. It’s not that serious

 

[Benefited]

Man one man did not ruin the game. It’s not that serious

Sure he did by setting the chain of events that ruined the game,with players creating superteams. Giving players an excuse to go create other superteams. Even if you are a competitor you almost are an idiot to be a star refusing to join a superteam at this point,because theres no way for you to be competetive,you can only get lucky. THen he created the "players creating our own destiny,whats the problem" narrative. The problem is these players ruining the game by insuring only a few teams realistically have a shot,and really we know the warriors will win unless multiple players choke horribly or an injury happens.

the nba needs to take control out of the players hands,I don't give a damn if the players try to play the race card and say they don't want black men to have power. You guys still don't have power if you won't create your own league. NBA has to step in and either make less teams or lessen the cap.

 

[James Dean]

Sure he did by setting the chain of events that ruined the game,with players creating superteams. Giving players an excuse to go create other superteams. Even if you are a competitor you almost are an idiot to be a star refusing to join a superteam at this point,because theres no way for you to be competetive,you can only get lucky. THen he created the "players creating our own destiny,whats the problem" narrative. The problem is these players ruining the game by insuring only a few teams realistically have a shot,and really we know the warriors will win unless multiple players choke horribly or an injury happens.

the nba needs to take control out of the players hands,I don't give a damn if the players try to play the race card and say they don't want black men to have power. You guys still don't have power if you won't create your own league. NBA has to step in and either make less teams or lessen the cap.

This a whole lotta nothing. Bron didn’t start he super teams. And these cats just out here balling and setting up ther legacies. Nobody gonna care about any of this stuff when they hang them up and the cycle continues as it always has.

You can dislike the guy or whatever but to say he ruined the league is corny

 

[Benefited]

This a whole lotta nothing. Bron didn’t start he super teams. And these cats just out here balling and setting up ther legacies. Nobody gonna care about any of this stuff when they hang them up and the cycle continues as it always has.

You can dislike the guy or whatever but to say he ruined the league is corny

All you have to do is name me one other time where arguably the best player in the league in his prime,left his team to go join two other all stars. This has only happened with Bron and KD they hypocrite,who criticized Lebron only to do the same thing in even worst fashion. Bron started it,KD finished it,and now the league as a whole might be finished until they fix it.

Sorry,they ruined the league for me along with other things if that makes you feel better. I could deal with the lack of defense if we had some disparity.

 

[surv2syn]

He needs to blame Cavs management not GSWs.

In the 4 years after he left Cleveland they passed on every one of the players.

Joel Embiid
Rudy Gobert
Andre Drummond
jokic
Giannis
Draymond Green
Kris Middleton
Kawhi Leonard
Garry Harris
Victor Oladipo
CjMcallum
Damian Lillard


Add anyone of them to kyrie and Lebron and no one would even be talking about the Warriors. Yet he still choose to “come back home” knowing that he and Kyrie were all they had from the beginning.

Lebron aside. The Cavs have been terrible FO for years. Remember Danny Ferry? The whole time in the Bron first era I think they only drafted Luke Jackson? They couldve traded up for Iggy. Or took a chance on HS talent like Al Jefferson who was a walking double double for years. Like their draft history is the woat. They only drafted a few decent players over the years. They got Kyrie right, but they couldnt fukk that up. They got Hickson, TT, Danny Green (but didnt develop him).

Look at their history of reaching though. They reached with TT. Kept reaching with Waiters when a lot of people expected them to go with Lillard or Barnes. I personally thought Drummond shouldve been right behind Davis and everyone passed on him...that doesnt excuse Cleveland though. Yeah they couldve gotten Draymond, but they literally dont know what swinging for the fences means. Their reaching is illogical. They traded Crowder. Middleton and Barton were out there.

the Bennett reach was legendary though. Who really thought that was a good idea? experts and casuals were scratching their heads with that. Everyone was saying either Oladipo or Porter would be #1 for sure and when they made that announcement

I wont kill them for the Wiggins pick. Messing up a #1 pick isnt something that is easy to do...but they still managed to do it with Bennett. Its not like anyone projected Bennett to even be a top 3 pick and to top that off, he didnt even work out for the Cavs. The GM at the time voted against selecting Bennett. They had a good GM in Griffin and lowballed the shyt outta him...and Chauncey.

 

[The_Third_Man]

Let’s stop the bullshyt, he came back to Cleveland because he got rocked by Kawhi (Heatles were finished), Pat Riley wasn’t having LeGM and he had built another superteam with Kyrie and Kevin Love...

so he left the team that just went to the finals to join a team that didn't make the playoffs so that he can beat the Spurs?

 

[DIMES]

It always blows my mind when people act like Lebron was getting "easy" wins in Miami.

In 2011 Haslem/Miller got injured just after he got there and the Heat had no center, no point guard, no three-point shooting, and no bench the entire season, while Spolstra was being incompetent as fukk about lineups. The Heat were underdogs on the road against the Bulls and lost to the Mavs.

In 2012 Bosh missed half the playoffs while Wade was getting his knee drained and only scored 5 points in one game. Heat were starting any three of Chalmers, Battier, and Turiaf/Anthony/Pittman in PLAYOFF games. The Heat went down 2-1 to Indiana and 3-2 to Boston and Lebron had to come up with monster 40-18-8 and 45-15-5 games to stave off elimination.

In 2013 the Heat damn near lost when down 3-2 to the Spurs and only squeezed out with back-to-back threes by Lebron and Ray and that missed free throw by Kawhi. Lebron had to have a monster Game 7 to finish them off. Even before then he had to hit a game-winner against the Pacers just to squeeze by in 7.

In 2014 the Heat were old, Wade was hurt, and they got rolled by the Spurs.


There was no "bulldozing" the league. Even with Lebron playing at a GOAT level, they still only barely won two titles.

Once again the most thorough & knowledgeable NBA poster


Like a wise elder sage that pops out with cold hard facts when you least expect it.

@Mr. Jack Napier from one Melo fan to another ... sit down be humble

 

[MJ Truth]

George Hill HAVE to step up and handle the ball be aggressive and dish the ball off.
They should of kept Delinova, he use to chase curry all over the court and never run out of energy and he was able to set up triston for easy alley hoops.
George Hill has to do the same and set other players up like triston to score atleast 12 baskets.
Jr should come off the bench and Rodney hood should start, which would make jr more comfortable playing.
I think Jr plays better when he not in the game with LeBron,
He is more aggressive and not scared to be a playmaker when bron is on the bench

That boy damn near DIED after Game 3 of ‘15, stop it.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

This a whole lotta nothing. Bron didn’t start he super teams. And these cats just out here balling and setting up ther legacies. Nobody gonna care about any of this stuff when they hang them up and the cycle continues as it always has.

You can dislike the guy or whatever but to say he ruined the league is corny

Lebron took that super team shyt to the next level when he joined 2 other prime players top 10-15 players at that time. Nobody never seen anything like that previously which is why the backlash, outside of Cleveland, was huge. It set off a chain of events definitely and you must either be young or creating revionist history not to remember how the Miami Heat were viewed during those times

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Once again the most thorough & knowledgeable NBA poster


Like a wise elder sage that pops out with cold hard facts when you least expect it.

@Mr. Jack Napier from one Melo fan to another ... sit down be humble

LOL, so in 2014 the Heat were OLD, so what the f*ck was San Antonio??? Excuses, excuses.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

All you have to do is name me one other time where arguably the best player in the league in his prime,left his team to go join two other all stars. This has only happened with Bron and KD they hypocrite,who criticized Lebron only to do the same thing in even worst fashion. Bron started it,KD finished it,and now the league as a whole might be finished until they fix it.

Sorry,they ruined the league for me along with other things if that makes you feel better. I could deal with the lack of defense if we had some disparity.

You honestly didn't know about Wilt forcing his way out of the Sixers after an MVP season in order to join Jerry West and Elgin Baylor in Los Angeles.

How did you miss that one?

Then Kareem was clearly the best player in the world he demanded a trade to Los Angeles, who already had 22ppg All-star and HOF Gail Goodrich as well as 20ppg scorer Lucius Allen.

Everyone knew that Magic Johnson would immediately be one of the best players in the NBA the moment he entered the league. He's admitted that he only declared for the NBA because the Lakers won the #1 pick and he'd be able to join MVP Kareem, Norm Nixon, and Jamaal Wilkes, and that he would have stayed in school another year if the Bulls had gotten the pick.

Charles Barkley won MVP the year he demanded a trade away from Philly, going to Phoenix to join Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, and Tom Chambers. Then just three years later he demanded a trade to a contender and went to Houston to join Hakeem and Drexler.

Shaq was already one of the most dominant players in the league when he left Orlando to join Los Angeles, which already had Eddie Jones, Nick van Exel, and Kobe Bryant, who would all be All-Stars the next year.

Kobe and Shaq weren't technically the ones who moved, of course, but they were both MVP candidates when they got two more all-stars added to the team in Payton and Malone.

Pierce and Garnett weren't "the best in the NBA", but they both were getting MVP votes when they and Ray Allen hooked up together in 2008.

Dwight Howard was #2 in MVP voting in 2011, then the next year he demanded out to the Lakers and joined Kobe, Pau, and Nash in summer 2012.

Since free agency started for real, there's only been a few "best player in the league" situations, and most of them were already on stacked teams or top organizations so they didn't have a reason to leave. But all those situations, especially Wilt's, are so damn close that to say LeBron "ruined the league for me" is just stupid when he wasn't doing anything that hadn't already been done decades earlier.

 

[Brief Keef]

Sure he did by setting the chain of events that ruined the game,with players creating superteams. Giving players an excuse to go create other superteams. Even if you are a competitor you almost are an idiot to be a star refusing to join a superteam at this point,because theres no way for you to be competetive,you can only get lucky. THen he created the "players creating our own destiny,whats the problem" narrative. The problem is these players ruining the game by insuring only a few teams realistically have a shot,and really we know the warriors will win unless multiple players choke horribly or an injury happens.

the nba needs to take control out of the players hands,I don't give a damn if the players try to play the race card and say they don't want black men to have power. You guys still don't have power if you won't create your own league. NBA has to step in and either make less teams or lessen the cap.

you aint lying but it's alotta prideful nikkas in the NBA CJ said he rather get swept then make a super team

 

[010101]

blame boston*

 

[surv2syn]

so he left the team that just went to the finals to join a team that didn't make the playoffs so that he can beat the Spurs?

thats Coli logic for you

 

[James Dean]

Lebron took that super team shyt to the next level when he joined 2 other prime players top 10-15 players at that time. Nobody never seen anything like that previously which is why the backlash, outside of Cleveland, was huge. It set off a chain of events definitely and you must either be young or creating revionist history not to remember how the Miami Heat were viewed during those times

People are always going to be salty about players making moves like that but he didn’t start it. Y’all gotta let it go these cats will do what it takes to set themselves up to win if they can. That’s all this is at the end of the day, period