LET US CLARIFY THE DEFINITION OF OVERRATED...

[nineteeneightysix]

This post is inspired by the thread about "What is the most overrated diss track in hip hop?"

After "Classic," I think "overrated" is one the most used words on these hip hop forums, and I get the sense that the fans don't really know what they are saying when they use the word...

Basically, fans are using the word "overrated" to describe anything popular thing in hip hop that they don't like...There is little to no objectivity in their use of the word...

For example, a Jay-Z idolater will make a thread saying that "Illmatic" is overrated, without even considering the fact that, the way Nas flowed on "Illmatic" had a huge direct or indierect impact on almost every New York rapper that can afterwards...

To make this post as short as possible I state this, as fans, we can't be saying something is overrated if it has had a significant impact on the game...

Basically, anything that has impacted the game cannot be called overrated, just because we feel a particular way about it...

For example, I am not a fan of Lil Wayne, the only Lil Wayne songs I like are "Sky's the limit" and "Nympho Remix (because Pac is in it)," but it would be illogical for me to say that Lil Wayne is overrated, when I know damn well Lil Wayne's flow has been one of the most bitten in the past 7 or so years...Dude has had a significant impact on the game...In fact, he deserves "GOAT" status arguments...

However, I think I can argue a song like "Country Grammar" (even though I like it) is overrated, because I don't see how that song really impacted the game after it was released...Yes, it was very popular and made Nelly a multi-millionaire, but other rappers did not exactly change their games to be more like Nelly, for example, using his flows, image, and sound...So, if somebody said "Country Grammar" was overrated, I wouldn't be too mad...

To conclude, hip hop songs, lyrics and etc should not be considered overrated if they had an impact (negative or positive) on the game...The word overrated is more suited for popular songs and rappers who made hits that didn't really change the direction of the game in any significant way...

 

[FRIED MASON]

:tyga:

 

[Yecht]

 

[nineteeneightysix]

:tyga:

Yes, it needs to be done...We can't just keep having these mindless debates that take away the legitimacy of the genre...

How do we expect hip hop to be respected by other genre's, we don't even respect the legends of the game?

It's an important discussion...

But if you prefer mindless banter, I ain't mad at you...

Some people don't like to think...

 

[bufu]

This post is inspired by the thread about "What is the most overrated diss track in hip hop?"

After "Classic," I think "overrated" is one the most used words on these hip hop forums, and I get the sense that the fans don't really know what they are saying when they use the word...

Basically, fans are using the word "overrated" to describe anything popular thing in hip hop that they don't like...There is little to no objectivity in their use of the word...

For example, a Jay-Z idolater will make a thread saying that "Illmatic" is overrated, without even considering the fact that, the way Nas flowed on "Illmatic" had a huge direct or indierect impact on almost every New York rapper that can afterwards...

To make this post as short as possible I state this, as fans, we can't be saying something is overrated if it has had a significant impact on the game...

Basically, anything that has impacted the game cannot be called overrated, just because we feel a particular way about it...

For example, I am not a fan of Lil Wayne, the only Lil Wayne songs I like are "Sky's the limit" and "Nympho Remix (because Pac is in it)," but it would be illogical for me to say that Lil Wayne is overrated, when I know damn well Lil Wayne's flow has been one of the most bitten in the past 7 or so years...Dude has had a significant impact on the game...In fact, he deserves "GOAT" status arguments...

However, I think I can argue a song like "Country Grammar" (even though I like it) is overrated, because I don't see how that song really impacted the game after it was released...Yes, it was very popular and made Nelly a multi-millionaire, but other rappers did not exactly change their games to be more like Nelly, for example, using his flows, image, and sound...So, if somebody said "Country Grammar" was overrated, I wouldn't be too mad...

To conclude, hip hop songs, lyrics and etc should not be considered overrated if they had an impact (negative or positive) on the game...The word overrated is more suited for popular songs and rappers who made hits that didn't really change the direction of the game in any significant way...

That was the first part of your post my eyes saw. Ironically, I didn't read shyt else

 

[Zach Lowe]

Something is overrated if it's rated higher than it should be

This "anything that has impacted the game can't be called overrated" idea makes no sense

 

[Mac Casper]

Something is overrated if it's rated higher than it should be

This "anything that has impacted the game can't be called overrated" idea makes no sense

Or to the contrary, it makes so much sense that it threatens your way of thought

 

[Zach Lowe]

Or to the contrary, it makes so much sense that it threatens your way of thought

OP is proposing that we rate or judge music on the basis of impact alone

He said we can't call Lil Wayne overrated just cuz of his impact
and instead we should be calling him a GOAT candidate

at you if you're co-signing this BS

 

[Akademiks]

U lost me at GOAT status ... and I"m a Wayne SuperFan ..........................

 

[Mac Casper]

OP is proposing that we rate or judge music on the basis of impact alone

He said he can't call Lil Wayne overrated just cuz of his impact
and instead he should be calling him a GOAT candidate

at you if you're co-signing this BS

that might be an extreme example. He just means "overrated" is thrown around too much.

 

[Zach Lowe]

Basically, fans are using the word "overrated" to describe anything popular thing in hip hop that they don't like...There is little to no objectivity in their use of the word...

This is the correct usage of overrated

If someone feels that something is rated higher than it should be then they can call it overrated

Lol @ objectivity
as if that's possible in music

Illmatic is actually overrated because it's singled out as the best rap album ever and people act like it's far above and beyond other classic albums

It Was Written is about 90% as good as Illmatic but people act like Illmatic is 10 times better than any other hip hop album

 

[Zach Lowe]

that might be an extreme example. He just means "overrated" is thrown around too much.

That's true but if you read his post it's actually very stupid

"hip hop songs, lyrics and etc should not be considered overrated if they had an impact (negative or positive) on the game"



even hip hop with a negative impact can't be overrated now

ok

 

[bufu]

OP is proposing that we rate or judge music on the basis of impact alone

He said we can't call Lil Wayne overrated just cuz of his impact
and instead we should be calling him a GOAT candidate

at you if you're co-signing this BS

He's clearly overrating Weezy's impact by even bringing up GOAT status, and yes, I used all those keywords on purpose. fukk autotune, fukk that hashtag flow and fukk saturating the market with mixtapes. Weezy's impact ain't shyt to me, but I can't call him overrated?

 

[blackslash]

nikkaz call Pac GOAT based on his impact but dont wanna use the same criteria when it come to other rappers huh?

 

[BlackZilla]

ROFL @ Wayne being a GOAT candidate....