Let's keep it 100, sidekicks on title teams are less respected than big stats on a bad team

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When people say its all about winning, its a lie. Its all about winning if you are perceived as "the man". Just listening to all this talk surrounding Kyrie proves it. Everyone is saying he's not a top 10 player. Yet those same people would put the likes of Westbrook and Harden in the top 5. Why is that? Cause they put up insane stats? Some clowns are even willing to put a guy like Towns above Kyrie cause he had one great statistical year.

Can ya'll just admit that winning only matters when the guy is the man. Otherwise its better for your legacy to just be a guy who puts up big stats on a team that'll never win. I mean HISTORICALLY guys like Charles Barkley and Karl Malone are considered better than Scottie Pippen eventhough he has 6 rings and they have none. And that's largely because they were "the man" on some decent teams and put up big stats.

Kyrie's legacy would be helped 10-fold if he went out on his own and averaged crazy stats for a few years than to win more rings being second fiddle to LeBron.
 

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People out Westbrook and harden above kyrie because theyre better than kyrie. Neither the rockets or thunder were even bad. :mjlol:
 
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People out Westbrook and harden above kyrie because theyre better than kyrie. Neither the rockets or thunder were even bad. :mjlol:

I think that's arguable. Kyrie Irving just averaged 27ppg and 30ppg in the NBA finals in back to back seasons. Both those guys have been in an NBA finals as the #2/#3 option and never balled out like Kyrie just did.

I don't think its outlandish to think that Kyrie on his own could average something like 30 PPG, 5 RPG, 8 APG for an entire season. He just averaged 25 PPG and 6 APG playing alongside LeBron. So I don't think those are numbers that are out of the realm of possibility.
 
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