Let's keep it real, with the way rap ended up BIG would've fell off by like 98.

[LandryFieldsDad]

So...after BIG died.
For a year..I kept hearing Big verses on the RADIO and TV.

Around the world, Mo Money Mo Problems.
Just because DMX gained popularity...Big would become nonexistant?

Even after mase ran to Atlanta...bad boy was still popular for years.

Sometimes Id rather go on twitter and look at teenage girls give life advice then read this garbage

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I believe it.

BIG was too close to Diddy, who wanted to be a star in his own right.

Jay would have been huge since Jay didn't have anything or anyone to limit his allegiance or loyalty to HIMSELF.

 

[HugLife]

Its all would've could've bullshyt bbu but.

Big definitely would've fell off all bad boy artist do. I'd say by late 98-00. I doubt LAD would sell as much as it did with him being alive maybe half the total numbers.

Think about it Lil Kim probably would've came at his neck dissing
He would soon learn Puff was dikkin him
Jay and the freshman class of 98 would be on a meteoric rise
Jay would've Shang Tsung'd him
Suge getting out of jail
The Nawlins boys NL and CMB
Possible Nas Pre-Ether diss to Big
One of the up and coming rappers (DMX, Canibus, Pun) more than likely would have a diss for a vet like Big.


Soon as Big got lukewarm or asked Jay for a dollar Hovy Baby would've left him high and dry like he normally do.

 

[Spoonz]

I agree he would of fallen off real quick, he's just the type of guy that gets old quickly.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

It would have took longer than just 1 yr but I definitely think he would have fallen off. His image had a level of gimmick to it that would have ended up holding him back. He would have had to shed diddy and that persona.

 

[Ego Noir]

Would've

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

it's like the TS has completely ignored the fact that the shiny suit era was a direct effect of biggie's murder


biggie doesn't get murdered

there is no shiny suit era

/thread

 

[Malik]

Considering Mase sold like 4 million albums in '98...and Jigga blew up pretty much the exact same time as DMX using basically the same image/content as Big was



We can randomly hypothesize that he would've fell off...but it wasn't gonna be cause of that..."real hip hop heads" would've complained...but it would've mattered bout as much as it did for Jay

This is a lie.


People just hate that Jay uses Biggie's lines a bit more than he should and filled the New York void.........so they act like he's a complete knockoff when he's not.


Big was on that super fly, shiny suits, 80s R&B samples shyt on Life After Death. Jay-Z blew up with Hard Knock Life. The most damning fact that HNL wasn't like Biggie's shyt was that Jay-Z actually tried to bite Big's whole look with Sunshine and it failed horribly so he had to regroup a year later with something more original.

 

[Tuling]

Nah, he would've quit before that happened. Big had a vision unlike any other rap artist in the 90's, he knew what he wanted to do the second he came into the game. Keep with the consistency til' he was done with the 5-6 albums on Bad Boy and retire as the undisputed goat.

 

[JustCKing]

You do realize that Bad Boy was instrumental in DMX even blowing up. For starters, he had two features on one of the biggest albums of '97, which was Mase's Harlem World. DMX's first two singles featured Bad Boy artists (Sheek was on "Get At Me Dog" and Faith was on "How It's Going Down"). DMX was also on the No Way Out tour. Then he was on The Lox's "Money, Power, Respect" single. It's not like he just came out of nowhere and blew up. Indirectly, Bad Boy kind of deaded the shiny suit era themselves.

As far as Biggie, it's unknown what would've happened. Bad Boy struggled with Hip Hop in '99, but that posthumous Biggie album was the most successful album they put out that year. Then Bad Boy had that resurgence in like '00-'01 which saw platinum albums from Shyne and Black Rob. Diddy dropped another compilation that went gold and had a couple of other big hits. So who really knows where Biggie would've fell into the mix.​

 

[razassin]

I think yall underestimatin big as an artist...

I mos def think he woulda parted ways with puff or would have become his partner at bad boy

Jay woulda prolly retired early in his rap career n just focus on business

 

[Long Live The Kane]

This is a lie.


People just hate that Jay uses Biggie's lines a bit more than he should and filled the New York void.........so they act like he's a complete knockoff when he's not.


Big was on that super fly, shiny suits, 80s R&B samples shyt on Life After Death. Jay-Z blew up with Hard Knock Life. The most damning fact that HNL wasn't like Biggie's shyt was that Jay-Z actually tried to bite Big's whole look with Sunshine and it failed horribly so he had to regroup a year later with something more original.

By image/content I'm talking about the flossy, balling out of control ex drug dealer thing that Jay-Z is basically in part STILL riding till this day...not that he physically looked like Big...Vol. 1 was indeed as shameless and blatant rip off of a Shiny Suit Era Bad Boy imaginable...but it gave Jigga his first platinum plaque and couldn't be called a horrible failure at all, other than Jay being embarrassed about it today...and it ain't like he abandoned that shyt entirely and blew up out of nowhere off the strength of standing on the stoop in the hood in the HKL video..the whole partying in the islands and standing around rocking suits shyt (straight out of the LAD Biggie handbook) he was doing in videos for It's Alright and Can I Get A in the lead up to Vol. 2 were just as much of his blowing up period as HKL the single (which was more the culmination than the actual start)....i mean, the cover of Vol. 2 could have been a pic from a deleted scene of the Hypnotize video or any other jiggy-era Bad Boy video

Big as we knew him when he died wouldn't have had any trouble fitting into a hip hop game where Jay-Z was selling 5 million records

 

[Spidey Man]

Big would be fine. He was the complete package as far as an artist and would have made great records with black rob, crack man x, and would have destroyed the honey remix with mariah, and probably fiesta with r Kelly.

He would have nas longevity if he wanted

 

[Malik]

By image/content I'm talking about the flossy, balling out of control ex drug dealer thing that Jay-Z is basically in part STILL riding till this day...not that he physically looked like Big...Vol. 1 was indeed as shameless and blatant rip off of a Shiny Suit Era Bad Boy imaginable...but it gave Jigga his first platinum plaque and couldn't be called a horrible failure at all, other than Jay being embarrassed about it today...and it ain't like he abandoned that shyt entirely and blew up out of nowhere off the strength of standing on the stoop in the hood in the HKL video..the whole partying in the islands and standing around rocking suits shyt (straight out of the LAD Biggie handbook) he was doing in videos for It's Alright and Can I Get A in the lead up to Vol. 2 were just as much of his blowing up period as HKL the single (which was more the culmination than the actual start)....i mean, the cover of Vol. 2 could have been a pic from a deleted scene of the Hypnotize video or any other jiggy-era Bad Boy video

Big as we knew him when he died wouldn't have had any trouble fitting into a hip hop game where Jay-Z was selling 5 million records

I get what you saying but, I could always tell the Bad Boy/Biggie sound apart from Hov's. Bad Boy was glossy. Puff was King of flipping R&B into some smooth rap shyt.







Jay's shyt was more gritty....totally different sound IMO.