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havoc00

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>already traded Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle, and Heath Bell, the three big pickups from last offseason
>traded their top three starters, Buehrle, Johnson, and Sanchez
>traded Hanley Ramirez to replace him with nobody
>released Gaby Sanchez and to replace him with Carlos Lee for half a season
>they traded Omar Infante to replace him with nobody
>Ozzie Guillen is gone
>only good players are Stanton and Chisek
>nobody goes to their games in their huge, publicly-funded ballpark
 

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Miami has maybe the 2nd worst fan base outside atlanta they dont support the team so the owner did somethin that would make him dough,it was shrewd but what business man isnt?

Fukk the marlins and their fans move that team to a real baseball city
 

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Miami has maybe the 2nd worst fan base outside atlanta they dont support the team so the owner did somethin that would make him dough,it was shrewd but what business man isnt?

Fukk the marlins and their fans move that team to a real baseball city

Marlins move? Then what the fukk they going to do with an empty brand new baseball stadium paid by the tax payers?

Marlins owner like :yeshrug:
 

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The Jays fan in me loves this trade, but the former Expo fan in me just remembered what a dirtbag Jeffrey Loria is.

I really feel for Marlins fans right now.
 

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Its hard to be a fan. Why would you buy merchandising knowing its worthless damn near in a few months.
 

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plus players are sayin they don't want stay around now this team is going down the tubes fast nobody is going to want play there with their current ownership
 

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Did the Marlins' win blockbuster with Jays?
With the benefit of hindsight now that we're more than halfway through the 2013 season, let's review the blockbuster offseason trade between Toronto Blue Jays and Miami Marlins and see just how much a little perspective changes things.

Back on November 19 of last year, the Marlins were coming off a 69-93 campaign -- their worst since 1999 despite spending big the previous offseason in preparation for their new stadium -- and so they sold off their high-priced talent by trading Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, John Buck and Emilio Bonifacio to the Jays for Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, Jeff Mathis, Henderson Alvarez as well as prospects Jake Marisnick, Justin Nicolino and Anthony DeSclafani.

In all, twelve plays changed teams. Not only were the Marlins widely considered the losers of the trade, they also were heavily criticized -- and rightly so in some sense -- for yet another fire sale.

Now, though, only nine months later, things look quite a bit different, don't they?

Toronto, which almost instantly became a consensus favorite to win the AL East and contend for their first postseason since 1993, has suffered through a brutally disappointing season; since late April, they've been stuck in last place in the division for all but two days.

meanwhile,
the Marlins may be a budding juggernaut:

Miami is stockpiling a dangerous combination of young talent

If you're shocked by the idea of actually having something positive to say about the laughingstock Miami Marlins, you'd be far from alone. They have arguably the most despised owner in sports in Jeffrey Loria, a man who successfully talked Florida taxpayers into publicly funding a gaudy stadium that no one goes to. They underwent yet another fire sale last winter, less than a year after opening the new park. They just bid farewell to Loria's hand-picked hitting coach Tino Martinez after allegations of verbal and physical abuse, all while the offense Martinez led challenges historical marks for futility.

that means that just about no one seems to have noticed that the Marlins have the fourth-best record in the National League (29-24) since May 31, two bona fide superstars under the age of 24 and a roster that is turning over the placeholders to include young and talented prospects.

It's not easy to be a Marlins fan right now -- but as you could see watching Jose Fernandez strike out 14 batters on Friday night -- they are shaping up as a juggernaut in the not-too-distant future.

When the team moved into its brand-new park last season, they did so with an excess of pomp and circumstance by signing Heath Bell, Mark Buehrle and Jose Reyes to expensive free-agent deals. But as the team stumbled on the field, the selloff soon began, and after pitcher Ricky Nolasco was sent to the Dodgers last month, it left the team without a single player making more than $2.75 million in 2013.

With the roster gutted of talent other than elite slugger Giancarlo Stanton, new manager Mike Redmond was forced to staff his lineup with past-their-prime veteran fill-ins like Greg Dobbs (.262 wOBA) and Juan Pierre (.261 wOBA). It didn't help that Stanton was sidelined for much of the first half by a bad hamstring, and the team's start was so atrocious that it fulfilled every critic's claim that Loria cared only about revenue sharing and tax breaks, not spending on a winning roster.

Jose Fernandez might be the best young starter in MLB.
But what was often lost in that accounting is this simple fact: the 2012 team was awful. It lost 93 games, cost around $93 million dollars and was a year older. While it was difficult to avoid piling on for the horrible optics of blowing the team up so quickly after moving into the new park, if there was a mistake made here, it wasn't the Toronto trade. It was the players they had spent money on in the first place.

Meanwhile, the Marlins have reloaded by working with the talent imported in those deals to fill in around their two young superstars, Stanton and rookie pitcher Jose Fernandez. Stanton's ongoing injury problems remain a concern, yet he remains one of the most fearsome sluggers in the game. Fernandez, the team's first-round pick in 2011, just turned 21 on Wednesday, yet is one of the very few starters in baseball with a FIP below 3.00.

By May, 22-year-old Marcell Ozuna was seeing considerable time in the outfield, and for each of the last nine games, the starters have been Christian Yelich (21, Keith Law's No. 6 overall preseason prospect), Jake Marisnick (22, Law's No. 82 prospect, acquired from Toronto) and a now-healthy Stanton, still only 23.

The youth movement can be found nearly everywhere. When the Marlins hosted the Mets on Tuesday, seven of the nine starters were 25 or younger, including promising 23-year-old starter Nate Eovaldi, acquired in the Ramirez deal, and slick-fielding 24-year-old shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria, who came from the Blue Jays. That number could have been eight if 23-year-old catcher Rob Brantly (acquired from Detroit for Anibal Sanchez) hadn't had the night off. Eovaldi was actually the oldest pitcher they'd had in three nights, since he was following Fernandez and 22-year-old Jacob Turner, who came with Brantly from Detroit and has a 3.31 FIP in 11 starts.

While the offense struggles to come together, other than Stanton and Logan Morrison -- who is still only 25 -- the pitching has been excellent. No team had a lower FIP in July than the 2.94 the Marlins did, as the bullpen has been effective and Fernandez, Eovaldi and Turner front a rotation that includes 23-year-old Henderson Alvarez, who also came from Toronto.

There's more help on the way, as 21-year-old lefty Justin Nicolino (yet another piece from Toronto, and No. 62 on Law's list) was recently promoted to Double-A, where he joins 2012 first-round pick Andrew Heaney in the rotation.

This new young group of Marlins will be further reinforced by what looks likely to be a top-two pick in next year's draft, but the question here will always be about whether ownership will spend to build a competitive team or just continue to cycle off trades for minimum-salary players. At some point soon, they'll need to decide on the future of Stanton, though trading him could bring back an enormous bounty that could potentially fill several holes.
 
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