let's marinate on the greatness of "you're nobody (till somebody kills you)"

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One of the best hip hop songs of all timez.
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Damn, remember the first time I heard it and 15 years later it still reigns supreme.
 

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One of the best songs on one of the best albums from one of the best rappers :salute:
 
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great track

always loved the line "watch casino, im hip hops version of nicky tarantino, ask nino, he know"

bigs flow was always :wow: :wow:
 

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the kids the dog everybody dying :smugbiden:

no lying :birdman:
 

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Except for the last verse.....nothing Biggie was talkin about had anything to do with the subject of the song.

Biggie was nowhere as versatile as Pac was.

Even on sentimental real life songs, Biggie was still always talkin bout the same damn shyt.























































One of my favorite songs ever tho IJS......
 

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It's crazy how big of a theme death was in Bigs work and Pac's later work and the music ended up gaining impact because of what happened to both of them...Life After Death is a paranoid ass album but him dying before it was released just took it to another level...like the closest thing to a true autobiographical album

I don't think there have been any artists since that made death or the fragility of life such a major theme in their work...obviously besides shoot em up rappers...
 

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Except for the last verse.....nothing Biggie was talkin about had anything to do with the subject of the song.

Biggie was nowhere as versatile as Pac was.

Even on sentimental real life songs, Biggie was still always talkin bout the same damn shyt.

yeah because rhyming henessey with enemies 12 times a song is so versatile
 

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Except for the last verse.....nothing Biggie was talkin about had anything to do with the subject of the song.

Biggie was nowhere as versatile as Pac was.

Even on sentimental real life songs, Biggie was still always talkin bout the same damn shyt.























































One of my favorite songs ever tho IJS......


Actually the last verse of the song fits perfectly in the theme. He was telling the story of Dark Skin Jermaine and how nobody remembers him until he died. Also why turn it into a Biggie Vs Pac. There was things Pac did that Biggie couldn't and there was things Big did that Pac could not do, like Pac could never tell a story as descriptive as "nikkas Bleed" or play multiple characters like "Warning or Gimmie the Loot" or switch his style and flow like Big did on "Notorious Thugs". But the song was Epic and the perfect way to end the album. Faith and Him singing on the hook together was magic. The beat was perfect, the flow and Puffy saying the scripture at the beginning. The Original Version was dope too, it had the original sample which was strings but they replayed the sampled cause it didn't get cleared:





Your nobody till somebody kills U (Original)

(Jay Z sampled lyrics on this song on "Say Hello" and "Death of Autotune")
 
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great track

always loved the line "watch casino, im hip hops version of nicky tarantino, ask nino, he know"

bigs flow was always :wow: :wow:


On the surface that line seems like Biggie made a mistake cause Joe Pesci's character is actually named "Nicky Santuro" but what Biggie was doing is naming violent people in Cinema:

Nicky - Nicky Santuro (Casino)
Tarantino - Quentien Tarantino (Pulp Fiction, R. Dogs)
Nino - Nino Brown (New Jack City) (Biggie also had a boy named Nino)


His entandre's were always ILL.
 
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