Living wage advocates, how are restaruant owners supposed to deal with being squeezed like this?

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I agree/understand this.

But raising the MW isn't going to help people who qualify for MW jobs.

Raising MW exorbitantly isn't something thats going to affect people who don't make MW.

I support a MW increase, but $15 is too high IMO.

I agree with this. The people who actually need their wages increased are the middle class non-minimum wage workers. Wages are an incentive and increasing the wages of low skilled workers will only incentivize more low income work.
 

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Productivity is up, wages are flat, and the people at the top are taking a larger slice of the pie while paying less in taxes.

But the economy is terrible, so the top should get more of the pie and everybody else get less:troll:

I support a MW increase, but $15 is too high IMO.

Then what the hell are you babbling about then?
Too bad your logic actually doesn't support this claim.
You (and the people at the top) argue that an increase in wages increase cost/prices so they offset. Therefore they should be lowered or done away with to decrease those prices. That would never happen either.
 

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oh so now economic downturns have to be factored in :dead: :duck:

I can't argue with politically driven economists :snoop:

This shyt is futile. :pachaha:

I just really wonder if ya'll care about these people on MW as much as ya'll care to. Because the thing thats worse than MW is not having a job

You have to understand the assertion youre making. Using the same logic, if people decided they were all not going to work untill wages were increased slightly, there would be less people employed. If anything, workers should never have their wages increased, otherwise there will be less people employed. To combat their unemployment, greece should get rid of their minimum wage laws... And since wages and prices are so closely linked, prices will go down and the problem is solved
 

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Wages have been stagnant for a very long time while the price of everything else has gone up. People are just mad that minimum wage workers actually took a stand and fought for better wages. If certain businesses didn't take into account the possibility of wages increasing while they've been enjoying cheap labor for a long time, that's on them. They'll have to adapt or get ran over.

Also, giving better wages to the lower classes actually IMPROVES the economy, because they are much more likely to spend the money than the upper classes who are likely to just stockpile more and more assets as opposed to circulating that money by buying things. Most of these businesses will make that money back because those minimum wage workers will end up spending a lot of it.
 

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But the economy is terrible, so the top should get more of the pie and everybody else get less:troll:



Then what the hell are you babbling about then?
Too bad your logic actually doesn't support this claim.
You (and the people at the top) argue that an increase in wages increase cost/prices so they offset. Therefore they should be lowered or done away with to decrease those prices. That would never happen either.
So you argue about the argument, not the policy decision :stopitslime:
 

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You have to understand the assertion youre making. Using the same logic, if people decided they were all not going to work untill wages were increased slightly, there would be less people employed. If anything, workers should never have their wages increased, otherwise there will be less people employed. To combat their unemployment, greece should get rid of their minimum wage laws... And since wages and prices are so closely linked, prices will go down and the problem is solved
My point is that yes, a MW increase is warranted, but anything more than $10 and I start calling foul.

Not to mention, that we can't just infinitely raise the MW when we find things get too precarious.

If the goal is to help people who make MW, then we have to admit that there will always be people who make MW and that the MW is not intended to provide a life of comfort or ease to any degree.
 

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My point is that yes, a MW increase is warranted, but anything more than $10 and I start calling foul.

Not to mention, that we can't just infinitely raise the MW when we find things get too precarious.

If the goal is to help people who make MW, then we have to admit that there will always be people who make MW and that the MW is not intended to provide a life of comfort or ease to any degree.

MW is not intended to do anything... Im not sure what u mean by that? Should life be hard for people on MW? Anybody who works should not be subsidised for food by the government.
 

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MW is not intended to do anything... Im not sure what u mean by that? Should life be hard for people on MW? Anybody who works should not be subsidised for food by the government.
1. I never had the perception or expectation of MW to cover a standard of living in the US. I always saw it as the basic wage floor for any type of compensation for work. There are too many types of jobs and industries that have to comply to make this sort of universal expectation

2. Food subsidies have to be applied for. This is why not everyone who makes low wages is automatically on food stamps
 

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1. I never had the perception or expectation of MW to cover a standard of living in the US. I always saw it as the basic wage floor for any type of compensation for work. There are too many types of jobs and industries that have to comply to make this sort of universal expectation

2. Food subsidies have to be applied for. This is why not everyone who makes low wages is automatically on food stamps
If the mininum wage doesnt cover the basic costs of food and shelter etc, is it really the true cost of labor? if we are okay with the government subsidizing the cost of labour with social services for the working poor, why couldnt corporations simply have the government cover all the costs? Isnt the purpose of employment to cover these costs as best as you can?
 

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Nonsensical posting brehs

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Pretty sure this isn't in Australian dollars.
:beli: If we are not looking at purchasing power, then we are not serious.
 
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