This is like saying every person who hates gays is secretly gay.
C'mon now. Stop the noise.
Living wage advocates, how are restaruant owners supposed to deal with being squeezed like this?
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C'mon now. Stop the noise.
He and I have ALREADY said that 7.25 is too low.
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This is coming from a man who performed fellatio on a banana as one would do to simulate having oral sex on video chat, folks.
The funny thing is that its NOT me. I don't know who either of those fukking things are. Thats how unreal these internet witchhunts are
You dudes latched onto some fan theory and ran with it and i'm sitting here looking in the mirror like...damn...the internet really comes up with anything they want to believe, huh? 
I gave up trying to prove that I have NEVER been on tiny chat and no one has yet posted ANYTHING that looks like me
So yeah, if thats what you want to believe, go ahead. But you really are bent on something thats not true.
Did Taj look like had experience sucking "bananas"?
I'm really not a fan of these really subjective, almost arbitrary terms. What is a "great life"? For someone coming from somewhere like El Salvador, MW here is a "great life". But to me it sounds like hell
And people aren't saying $15/hr solves every issue, but they damn sure are saying it's the first thing that has to be done, despite all the other bigger issues affecting the working class. And nobody has given any hard reasons as to why that is.
Someone making MW can (and many DO) do all of these things. Someone with a job is getting work experience. There are people earning MW who own their own homes so they can clearly pay their bills and get ahead. And your rate of pay has nothing to do with your ability to get a promotion, though it can be an impediment to changing jobs.
Plus if one can't afford their home or their car or whatever they lose it. So why should we subsidize people's decisions to start families they can't afford? I've been with my wife for 8 years now. We could have had kids at any point along our time together. But we didn't. We waited, we saved, we bought a house, we got some of our parents to move to help with childcare, we got situated and NOW we are having kids. People having kids they can't afford is about as selfish and irresponsible as one can get, and we shouldn't be subsidizing or encouraging such behavior.
Again with the arbitrary subjective judgments touted as fact. Point me to some kind of official document stating that MW was initially set to be a living wage.
Oh and people keep talking about how MW is too low and has been falling behind with respect to inflation.... here is what nominal MW has looked like over time:
The light blue on top is MW adjusted for inflation. When it started it was an inflation adjusted $4-8/hr, during the "golden era" for American workers. $4/hr in today's money was, in accordance to your definition/purpose of MW, enough to build wealth, raise a family, get ahead etc. etc. So like I have been asking for the last 17 pages, why is it that people need 2-4x the inflation adjusted $$$ to get by? Are we just going to keep doubling and tripling MW without asking why or doing anything about everything becoming so expensive?
Dawg I answered your questions about 10000 times. Now answer mine.
That's because no one is saying that. It's the thing that happens to be being talked about right now. In 2008-09 everyone was talking about emergency stimulus the whole time. Then it was universal health care for a couple years. Last year there was a focus on unfair sentencing. Right now its minimum wage. No one thinks that all this shyt can be solved at once. But let's at least make a good argument for whatever is getting the focus right now.
You're talking like you expect policy makers to make a rational list of options. Neither the current policy makers nor the public will ever do that, because that's not how the current system or the human psyche works. The best we're going to do is make the best use of the current wind. If you are stuck on, "But let's do this important thing first", then you'll be living on a very small little bandwagon, and your perfect will constantly be the enemy of the good.
WTF? I said, "You seem to have lost track of what "minimum wage" means. This is the starting place, not the destination." How is noting that the minimum wage is a MINIMUM an arbitrary subjective judgement?
No one thinks that minimum wage should be a lifetime wage, or everybody's wage. It's a fukking MINIMUM wage. It's the lowest one should fall, not everyone's goal. That's the point I made, and that's not subjective, unless you forgot what MINIMUM means.
Now, I said, WE WANT that to be a living wage. How is saying, WE WANT a claim of fact or some claim of what MW was initially set to be?
Oh and people keep talking about how MW is too low and has been falling behind with respect to inflation.... here is what nominal MW has looked like over time:
The light blue on top is MW adjusted for inflation. When it started it was an inflation adjusted $4-8/hr, during the "golden era" for American workers. $4/hr in today's money was, in accordance to your definition/purpose of MW, enough to build wealth, raise a family, get ahead etc. etc. So like I have been asking for the last 17 pages, why is it that people need 2-4x the inflation adjusted $$$ to get by? Are we just going to keep doubling and tripling MW without asking why or doing anything about everything becoming so expensive?
Can you not read your own chart? From 1956 to 1982, minimum wage was $8-11, not $4-8. Actually, that's 2013 dollars, so you can even bump that a bit higher for 2015. I don't know where you get $4-8 from - neither the 1940s nor the post 1980s were the "golden age for american workers" in anyone's world.
And no one said that the 1960s were ideal. Of course you want progress for workers - I don't think this country has ever had a stage where they were as well-paid and secure as they should have been. But it's just embarrassing that we're in a place where they're even worse off than in previous decades.
'Please validate my use of time': Frustrated college graduate tries to sell her college diploma on eBay for $50,000 - after failing to find a job after four years
By CARLY STERN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
- Stephanie Ritter is selling her Florida State University Bachelor's degree on eBay for a Buy It Now price of $50,000 - or the next best offer
- The 26-year-old explains that the pricey degree and four years spent studying haven't helped her get a job
- In addition to offering the actual piece of paper, Stephanie will give the buyer a tour of campus and access to her memories on Facebook
- The California resident hopes to repay the $40,000 she owes in loans
PUBLISHED: 10:16 EST, 27 August 2015 | UPDATED: 12:30 EST, 27 August 2015
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One recent college graduate is so frustrated with her lack of job prospects that she's attempting to sell off her college degree - for $50,000.
Stephanie Ritter, a 26-year-old Florida State University alum, has listed her diploma on eBay for the staggering sum to cover the 'actual cost' of attending the school.
Now $40,000 in debt and living in Southern California, Stephanie is fed up with being unable to find a job in her field, despite having a Bachelor's degree - so she's come up with a drastic solution to pay off her loans and 'validate my use of time between 2007-2011'.
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For sale: Stephanie Ritter (pictured) is selling her Bachelor of Arts in theatre from Florida State University for $50,000 in hopes of paying off her loans
Stephanie majored in theatre and graduated from the public school in 2011 with honors - but now, unable to find work in her field, she has a job as an assistant.
'I thought this piece of paper has so much worth to so many people, but for a theatre major, it couldn’t mean less,' she told BuzzFeed. 'I’m doing the exact same things and probably getting paid the exact same amount as people that dropped out halfway through freshman year, except I’m still $40,000 in debt and they’re, well, not.'
So, to recoup some of those lost funds, Stephanie came up with the questionable idea of selling her degree for $50,000 - or the best offer she can get. That $50,000, she explains, will cover not just tuition, but also room and board, books, and 'memories'.
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Pricey: The 26-year-old said the $50,000 price tag covers the 'actual cost' of attending the school
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The whole package: In addition to receiving the diploma in the mail, the buyer will get a tour of the FSU campus access to Stephanie Facebook in order to 'experience' her college memories
On her eBay listing, she writes that what she is really selling is her 'authentic' FSU 'experience', and the diploma is just paper proof - seemingly poking fun at the idea that some incoming freshman hold that it's worth it to take out loans to pay for a particular school because they can't get the same 'experience' anywhere else.
However, Stephanie is offering potential buyers a more abridged version of that college experience. In addition to mailing the diploma - for free, in case anyone is waffling over having to pay shipping charges - the graduate will give the purchaser a tour of the university, 'including everywhere you would have gone/eaten/partied in your four years at FSU'. She lists some of her own favorite restaurants and bars in the area.
She will also provide 'access to all of my college memories/Facebook albums for six months' and entry to a show at the FSU School of Theatre (tickets for which can cost $17-50), as well as various tours - including 'a very quick drive by my former drug dealer/yoga teacher's house' and 'the spots I got speeding tickets in between classes'.
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No jobs: Stephanie says that she feels no better off in the job market with her degree than if she hadn't gone to college at all
Stephanie promises that the diploma itself is in mint condition, writing: 'Never been used to get a job before!'
In fact, she even lists several of the classes she took that 'led to her diploma' but didn't seen to actually provide any marketable skills that set her apart from other people in her field.
Some of those classes included Play Analysis (in which she studied 'a bunch of plays I haven't read or heard of since 2011), Set Design ('where I painted a 3x3 wooden block'), and Playwriting (during which her professor promised to arrange a meeting between Stephanie and Weeds creator Jenji Kohan but never followed through).
'Why waste four years of your life going to a state school for a piece of paper when you can just buy mine?' she entices, listing several ways the buyer could use the diploma - none of which are 'to get a job'.
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Tough economy: Many other young people are struggling similarly; from 2013-2014, 8.5 per cent of college graduates were unemployed and many don't have jobs related to their majors
Stephanie's situation is not unique, though her solution might be. According to the Economic Policy Institute and Slate, 8.5 per cent of college graduates aged 21 to 24 were unemployed between April 2013 and March 2014. And even those who are employed often aren't seeing their degrees put to good use. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has reported that just 27 per cent have jobs related to their major.
Though Stephanie seems to recognize the unlikelihood that someone will actually purchase her very expensive piece of paper, she hasn't given up all hope of achieving financial stability, and told BuzzFeed that she dreams that 'a very rich family would adult Daddy Warbucks me.'
And if that doesn't work out either, she has a back-up plan.
'If that falls through, honestly, [I will] just do that thing where I pay the minimum for 25 years and then the government feels so bad for you that they wipe it clean,' she said.
Read more: Frustrated college graduate lists her degree on eBay for $50,000
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