“Lupe Fiasco played all the drums on Hovi Baby” - Just Blaze

[Braman]

It was


But I also think just to be fair, that Atlantic was offering Lupe the best deal at the time. Hov being President would’ve perhaps been the cherry on the sundae but Food & Liquor was still executive produced by Jay-Z and had a Jay feature. An artist on his DEBUT album getting Hov to executive produce and feature on a RIVAL LABEL’s release is a pretty big deal and I doubt its happened since

The Jay z experience in a nutshell

He gives nggas the alley of a lifetime. A co-sign, verse, exec production, etc. All when he doesn’t owe you anything whatsoever

Yet n still: ‘waah? Jay z held my hand but it wasn’t tight enough. Jay z grimey’

 

[x-factor7]

Ah yes, the Booth annual tradition of telling us that Lupe wrote Hovi Baby and What More Can I Say for Jay

 

[NoHalfWay]

That song is actually a perfect illustration of why Lupe aint one of the greats but jay is.

Lyrical + knowledge is dope That’s Lupe

Lyrical + knowledge + relateable is next level. That’s Jay

Lupe ain’t never been relateable. He has no story. Make up characters to rap about brehs



I bully the bullies breh, trust me yall will get mad faster than me Lupe ain’t nothin but Canibus with a black belt

You tweaking. Lupe was super relatable his first 3 albums really

The word you looking for is personable. Lupe has never been personable like that

Lupe ain't have the breath control to be penning a "Hovi Baby". "Bu, bu it sounfs like Lupe". Ya'll wasn't listening to Lupe in 2002 and you're listening to Lupe later and saying he sounds like Jay conpletely ignoring Jay is one of his biggest influences.

Lupe breath control was up n down early on. But he definitely got the capability to do Hovi Baby, Lupe The Killer is nothing but Lupe’s rendition of Hovi Baby.

It’s not even about the ghost writing part, scrap that. If you are familiar with Lupe music from the early 2000’s you know that Hov is a huge influence on him… it’s just that Jay flipped a particular lyrical pattern around the timeframe that coincided with Lupe spitting bars for Jay, watching him compost the Blueprint 2/The Black Album at Baseline & 1&15th producing records for the ROC.

Now do I think Lupe wrote whole songs for Jay even tho it’s been alleged? Nawl

Do I think it could be a Young Chris situation where Jay heard a young fellas stuff and put his own spin on that kinda style? Fa sho

 

[TheWiseWon]

The jay slander on this site has to fukin stop man

And jay doesn’t need to defend himself against ghostwriting accusations, but it’s even funnier considering he lost his damn mind that summer on his lyrical shyt talkin. Hovi Baby was a progression from Addicted to the Game, Early this Morning, People Watching, Don’t You Know…..

Also he washed Lupe on Pressure The same way he has washed Kweli, Mos, MOP, etc etc

Since Jay is popular nggas want to believe the indie underground fave is better….but then he gets on a track with your indie fave and he bodies them fukk outta here

 

[Supa]

Start at :40



Lu clearly says he gave Jay joints for the Black Album. What that means is anyone's guess but he definitely helped with the creation of it. Probably have him ideas and concepts or some lines or some verses

 

[Rekkapryde]

instead of being content being a fukking ventriloquist dummy like Drake.

 

[Braman]

You tweaking. Lupe was super relatable his first 3 albums really

The word you looking for is personable. Lupe has never been personable like that

No. I know the word I wanted to use he is not relateable at all. Bc he just doesn’t have an interesting life story. Just like J Cole doesn’t. It’s just 1 of those things you absolutely cannot duplicate.

You can get by on one album like that bc your talent is so refreshing. But after a while we need YOUR story and Lupe ain’t got one. Food n Liquor is classic bc it’s real, authentic, gives about as much of his story as he can. But as early as his 2nd album he’s making nerd raps. ‘MyCool Young History’. Get it?!? He’s a fukking nerd

Nggas on here get too comfortable thinking we won’t ’punch down’. Like it’s cool to clown Jay z but prop up Lupe corny ass. Enough

 

[tuckgod]

So he’s a Blazette?

 

[ReasonableMatic]

The drums on Hovi Baby were FIRE
And Lupe played that shyt?!?! WOW

 

[tuckgod]

Start at :40



Lu clearly says he gave Jay joints for the Black Album. What that means is anyone's guess but he definitely helped with the creation of it. Probably have him ideas and concepts or some lines or some verses

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2002/01/03/city-tops-us-with-667-murders-in-2001/

Definitely this one, didn’t even change the hook

 

[tuckgod]

The drums on Hovi Baby were FIRE
And Lupe played that shyt?!?! WOW

I always thought it was some protools trickery or some shyt

 

[ReasonableMatic]

I always thought it was some protools trickery or some shyt

Lupe didn’t, it was some Just Blaze trickery

 

[tuckgod]

Lupe didn’t, it was some Just Blaze trickery

What a fakkit.

 

[Greenhornet]

not a lupe fan but lucifer was the first song I thought of and dude posted it

sounds just like his pocket and delivery

 

[O.Red]

Lupe ain't have the breath control to be penning a "Hovi Baby". "Bu, bu it sounfs like Lupe". Ya'll wasn't listening to Lupe in 2002 and you're listening to Lupe later and saying he sounds like Jay conpletely ignoring Jay is one of his biggest influences.

Hovi baby don't even sound like Lupe

The funny part is the context of the song makes it the unlikeliest song to be ghostwritten. Jay on that song using new weird flows and bragging about the fact that he's using new weird flows

Of all the songs to be ghostwritten this would be one of the hardest ones to live down if discovered