Macy Gray To Piers Morgan:"Just Because You Change Your Body Parts, It Doesn't Make You A Woman"

[Still Benefited]

You have to really sit back and realize that if transwomen are MEN, biological women are essentially battling MEN.

We can’t really do that.

This is why transmen are so silent; they grew up as and were socialized as little girls who understood not to step out of bounds when dealing with boys/men.

Transwomen were socialized as boys who were naturally dominant. So they push themselves into women’s spaces, act irrationally and get what they want.

Most of us aren’t down with this mess.

Are you implying that the reason studs dont overstep. Is because as girls/women they were raised to respect men and gender roles too much


That sounds crazy as hell,considering that women certainly dont seem docile when it comes to telling straight men what to do. And calling us out,or calling us gay for intruding in your spaces,or trying to advise you.


On the other hand it is a womans nature.But you do understand the implications of this. It would mean our women have become so genetically modified. That they interpret a gay flamboyant mans energy as masculine now. And a stoic,not easily moved ,masculine mans energy as docile. You may be on to something important here.

 

[Raw Lyrics]

I don't see what anyone does w/ their body or what they identify with is such a big topic. It's not hard to respect somebody, nor is it taking anything anybody else. Rallying behind homophobia/transphobia kinda cosigns WS, and I can't go w/ that.

Do what the phuk you want with your body, but just because you put lipstick on a pig doesn't mean everyone has to play along. A pig a pig.

 

[Starburst]

but

They should put Young Buck on there.

Imagine if they put Boosie in there…

 

[DaHNIC82]

I am so tired of this nonsense, shytting on trans folks is now the popular thing to do, to look edgy. I have no problems with trans folks, what they do with their bodies isnt the concern i have, they should be treated with dignity and respect. People who hate trans folks usually hate black folks as well, you can draw the correlation, its all right wing grievance bullshyt, fear the blacks, fear the gays now its fear the trans before it was the muslims. I for one wont partake in it.

Nikka shutcho weirdo azz up

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

I am so tired of this nonsense, shytting on trans folks is now the popular thing to do, to look edgy. I have no problems with trans folks, what they do with their bodies isnt the concern i have, they should be treated with dignity and respect. People who hate trans folks usually hate black folks as well, you can draw the correlation, its all right wing grievance bullshyt, fear the blacks, fear the gays now its fear the trans before it was the muslims. I for one wont partake in it.

You're just a covert, weenie luvin fakkit. Gettin all defensive...miss us wit that shyt.

 

[Mugenight]

The fact

I am so tired of this nonsense, shytting on trans folks is now the popular thing to do, to look edgy. I have no problems with trans folks, what they do with their bodies isnt the concern i have, they should be treated with dignity and respect. People who hate trans folks usually hate black folks as well, you can draw the correlation, its all right wing grievance bullshyt, fear the blacks, fear the gays now its fear the trans before it was the muslims. I for one wont partake in it.

...By far one of the stupidest fukking things I've read on here and I've read a lot of dumbshyt.

 

[Methodical]

Imagine if they put Boosie in there…

Boosie would get kicked out easily on day one or two. Young Buck would be acting all fake and insecure around a tranny like he's not down with tranny, etc.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I am so tired of this nonsense, shytting on trans folks is now the popular thing to do, to look edgy. I have no problems with trans folks, what they do with their bodies isnt the concern i have, they should be treated with dignity and respect. People who hate trans folks usually hate black folks as well, you can draw the correlation, its all right wing grievance bullshyt, fear the blacks, fear the gays now its fear the trans before it was the muslims. I for one wont partake in it.

It's the fault of trans-activists who conflated a biological issue with a purely psychological issue so, instead of trying to figure out some treatment for those who are truly suffering, we're expected to treat them as something they 'believe' they are.

If you believe you were born in the wrong body, there is a problem that needs to be fixed, not normalized.​

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

She's right but she should have let a white woman say that. We don't need to be out in front of everything.

 

[Gritsngravy]

I don’t like that we supposed to act obtuse about trans people, that causes too much confusion
In no shape or form can a man change himself into a women and vise versa,

 

[Harry B]

Can you be all for both trans and women's rights at the same time?

Why can't one side not just be a trans woman, and the other side be a woman, sounds like a "bi-partisan" compromise?

As the problems they face are completely different in terms of menstruation, breast/uterus cancer and other diseases that are behind on research, able to carry children (or not being able, when you should be), and discrimination on the basis of being a woman. While trans women have another set of problems.


I mean it's like we would say that we were white Italian Americans in like 1814, how would that help us?

 

[Gritsngravy]

I personally think that if you are gay, black and part of their community/culture (which is very anti-black), you are a c00n.

I agree, I lowkey feel the same way about other identities too
Like when people let religion or political ideologies overshadow the fact that they are black

 

[Gritsngravy]

I don't see what anyone does w/ their body or what they identify with is such a big topic. It's not hard to respect somebody, nor is it taking anything anybody else. Rallying behind homophobia/transphobia kinda cosigns WS, and I can't go w/ that.

I think that’s bullshyt because somebody telling me they a woman even though they a man is disrespecting me, so how much respect could trans people really get playing those mind games

 

[Still Benefited]

It’s crazy because what peaked me personally was the vast difference on how trans men and woman interacted with men and women respectively.

I have not once seen men and trans men have the same problems between each other like women and trans women do. I do think it might be the socialization, because I have yet to see a trans man called a man, ejaculator or sperm haver.

Now that I’m thinking about, you always hear how trans women have contributed to femininity, but I have never heard how trans men have contributed to masculinity.



I do envy men when it comes to this because they have their shyt on lock.

She bought up a great point imo. Ive just never viewed women as being the submissive ones in the lgbt/women dynamic. Just because i cant view a gay mans energy as masculine. Plus I'd assume they would just be trying to fit in and follow women.


But from a womans perspective, a gay man/transexual is still a man. And that loud,flamboyant energy we see as feminine. Is still masculine from a womans pov,because its coming from a man and its assertive


So gender roles are actually still being followed in these dynamics. We generally dont hang out with studs unless we trying to fukk. And when we do,we generally still treat them like the girls/women they are.


What im gathering is that our women are intimidated by the assertive/masculine energy of the gay black man. So they actually want straight black men to intervene ,to tell the gay men they arent women. But due to their programming by the alpha gay men. We could easily be condemned/canceled by the same women we are intervening to help?


Sorry,but righteous black men are too busy building to help on this matter at this point. Too risky,but we promise its on the agenda

 

[hatealot]

I am so tired of this nonsense, shytting on trans folks is now the popular thing to do, to look edgy. I have no problems with trans folks, what they do with their bodies isnt the concern i have, they should be treated with dignity and respect. People who hate trans folks usually hate black folks as well, you can draw the correlation, its all right wing grievance bullshyt, fear the blacks, fear the gays now its fear the trans before it was the muslims. I for one wont partake in it.

Go back to reddit.