Mad Lion the next contestant on that SummerJam Screen: Gloria Velez says he dated her when he was 29 and she was 16

[Awesome Wells]

This ain’t just a famous people thing. Back then girls I went to high school with were messing with dudes in their early, mid and late 20’s.

Facts.

Without saying names, I went to high school with a couple of chicks who were seeing rappers and just regular ass grown dudes, back then. We were like 14-15 and they were running with grown men. That's always been a thing. We'd be getting out of school, and dudes would be pulling up in whips picking up girls that were our age and basically still kids.

 

[FTBS]

SM is definitely not giving a fvck about no damn Mad Lion

If he's smart, he'd shut tf up n not try to defend himself. Let the shyt blow over

Call me insensitive, but I don't buy the innocent/victim act. Who doesn't remember older dudes showing up to high schools to pick up their chick. Those girls wore that shyt like a badge of honor.

The thing is, she was telling these same stories 20+ years ago.

But I bet nobody knew how old she was. Glo's actually cool, but she used to be at Luke's Freakfest joints doing wild sh*t on video and would be popping up at a lot of functions doing the kinda sh*t I can't even type on here. She basically had no parents and was always trying to hang around artists. So I'm more than sure she understood what she was doing. I don’t see the sense in trying to out these old n*ggas again today, other than she needs whatever crumbs she can get thrown at her for telling these same stories again.

Problem is, nobody cares about these people or her today. So the stories don’t hit the way they possibly could've if she dropped a book or some sh*t during the height of her groupie travels.

Kids do stupid, dangerous, nonsensical shyt. Every adult did something at 14, 15, 16 and was proud of it that wouldn't dream of doing at 30. Now are they responsible for their actions? Of course...they arent babies but they arent fully developed adults either. The people that are fully developed and at or near 30 or even older are the problem. Kids are gonna be kids and its on adults to correct and protect not lead them astray or take advantage. Its disingenuous and dangerous to act like they are anywhere near on the same level of responsibility or culpability.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

This may backfire on her badly.

May? look at how many post that are more outraged about the potential tightness of her p*ssy walls than the pedo activity
folks are cooked, focused on the wrong ish. that's why victims don't care to say anything a lot of times. and then they get the "why you didn't say anything then" okey doke. it's just one big cycle and the bottom line is "F you"

but happy monday yall!

 

[Awesome Wells]

Kids do stupid, dangerous, nonsensical shyt. Every adult did something at 14, 15, 16 and was proud of it that wouldn't dream of doing at 30. Now are they responsible for their actions? Of course...they arent babies but they arent fully developed adults either. The people that are fully developed and at or near 30 or even older are the problem. Kids are gonna be kids and its on adults to correct and protect not lead them astray or take advantage. Its disingenuous and dangerous to act like they are anywhere near on the same level of responsibility or culpability.

All true.

But speaking on this particular situation, and trying to do it respectfully, Glo didn't change when she got older either. There's plenty of chicks who had access to sh*t and didn't go that route, when they were younger. There's also plenty who did, but got older, learned from it, and changed. Gloria was always Gloria. As a teen, and as an adult.

I don’t even like speaking like this, but some hoes are just hoes. Their whole life. And I don’t mean that to be rude. But it's just how it is.

 

[mson]

The thing is, she was telling these same stories 20+ years ago.

But I bet nobody knew how old she was. Glo's actually cool, but she used to be at Luke's Freakfest joints doing wild sh*t on video and would be popping up at a lot of functions doing the kinda sh*t I can't even type on here. She basically had no parents and was always trying to hang around artists. So I'm more than sure she understood what she was doing. I don’t see the sense in trying to out these old n*ggas again today, other than she needs whatever crumbs she can get thrown at her for telling these same stories again.

Problem is, nobody cares about these people or her today. So the stories don’t hit the way they possibly could've if she dropped a book or some sh*t during the height of her groupie travels.

I think Gloria has a book coming out. She also has a son with autism, so she can probably use the money.

 

[Pop123]

How regular (and accepted) this was only like 25-30 years ago is something that should probably be discussed more. It wasn’t the norm but it wasn’t crazy like that either to hear that the cute 15 year old joint in your class is fukking with some 27 year old hustlin type nig with a Lexus, etc… type shh. I’m trying to think when it became super taboo and unacceptable. Imagine how it was 50-75 years ago,

 

[Awesome Wells]

I think Gloria has a book coming out. She also has a son with autism, so she can probably use the money.

She did an interview back in like '06 talking about this, and said she was doing a book.

It should've dropped then. Like the Superhead books. Today, we see so much f*ckery 24/7, people are desensitized to sh*t like this now. 20 years ago, people would still be shocked by sh*t like this and run out and buy the book. The Superhead joint was a bestseller and she didn't even name names! Today, we're so used to hearing wild sh*t, it might too late to capitalize on this. Unless you have some really big names to throw out there. It ain't gonna work with no Mad Lion stories, lol.

 

[mson]

How regular (and accepted) this was only like 25-30 years ago is something that should probably be discussed more. It wasn’t the norm but it wasn’t crazy like that either to hear that the cute 15 year old joint in your class is fukking with some 27 year old hustlin type nig with a Lexus, etc… type shh. I’m trying to think when it became super taboo and unacceptable. Imagine how it was 50-75 years ago,

 

[FTBS]

All true.

But speaking on this particular situation, and trying to do it respectfully, Glo didn't change when she got older either. There's plenty of chicks who had access to sh*t and didn't go that route, when they were younger. There's also plenty who did, but got older, learned from it, and changed. Gloria was always Gloria. As a teen, and as an adult.

I don’t even like speaking like this, but some hoes are just hoes. Their whole life. And I don’t mean that to be rude. But it's just how it is.

That is still taking the onus off the adults that are responsible. If you got a 15, 16 yr old girl running around stripping, fukkin, and hoein with all these grown dudes, that means you had adults dropping the ball or preying every step of the way. The fact that she never changed is an even further indictment of them. Its not kids job to change after being preyed upon, its adults job not to put them in that position to need to change. There is a reason we make such a big deal about people who change and overcome fukked up childhoods and thats because its not anywhere near as common as those that dont. Most folks that grow up fukked up, end up fukked sadly.

 

[Pop123]

Shh is gross bro. What type of father/older male figure in or around the household that loves her is letting that ride? A lot of mothers are goofy af, they mean well but they’re goofy when it comes to dating and shhit

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Ain't nobody locking up no damn Mad Lion in 2025

 

[Awesome Wells]

That is still taking the onus off the adults that are responsible. If you got a 15, 16 yr old girl running around stripping, fukkin, and hoein with all these grown dudes, that means you had adults dropping the ball or preying every step of the way. The fact that she never changed is an even further indictment of them. Its not kids job to change after being preyed upon, its adults job not to put them in that position to need to change. There is a reason we make such a big deal about people who change and overcome fukked up childhoods and thats because its not anywhere near as common as those that dont. Most folks that grow up fukked up, end up fukked sadly.

Nah, it's not.

We know what's right and wrong. We don’t need to waste time speaking on the obvious.

Mad Lion isn't doing interviews. Gloria is. So I'm focused on the messenger. Gloria's older than me. I've seen her on tours doing all kinds of wild sh*t well into her adult years and while being a mom. So yeah, we can speak on the obvious all day, and we know the adults in the 90's were wrong, but that doesn't excuse her for doing the same sh*t when she got older. At that point, you're no longer the victim. And I never had any issue with her, but she's been speaking on this, for monetary gain. It's not to raise any awareness or some kind of philanthropic effort in any way. It's just another method of hoeing.

 

[FTBS]

Nah, it's not.

We know what's right and wrong. We don’t need to waste time speaking on the obvious.

Mad Lion isn't doing interviews. Gloria is. So I'm focused on the messenger. Gloria's older than me. I've seen her on tours doing all kinds of wild sh*t well into her adult years and while being a mom. So yeah, we can speak on the obvious all day, and we know the adults in the 90's were wrong, but that doesn't excuse her for doing the same sh*t when she got older. At that point, you're no longer the victim. And I never had any issue with her, but she's been speaking on this, for monetary gain. It's not to raise any awareness or some kind of philanthropic effort in any way. It's just another method of hoeing.

Any bullshyt she has done as an adult should be put on her. But if we talking shyt from when she was a kid (which is her claim to fame and only source of relevance) then we gotta put the blame in its proper place for that too. You can be a shytty person and opportunist and a victim of predators. Both can be true and warrant being addressed when relevant. Its not an either or thing. Her fukked up childhood doesnt make it ok for her to fukk up another kid. Her shytty antics as an adult doesnt make grown men preying on her when she was a kid ok. And when you start talking about her and what she did or didnt do in instances when she was the victim or afterwards you are indirectly or directly taking the onus off the true problems, the shytty adults that created all this.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Any bullshyt she has done as an adult should be put on her. But if we talking shyt from when she was a kid (which is her claim to fame and only source of relevance) then we gotta put the blame in its proper place for that too. You can be a shytty person and opportunist and a victim of predators. Both can be true and warrant being addressed when relevant. Its not an either or thing. Her fukked up childhood doesnt make it ok for her to fukk up another kid. Her shytty antics as an adult doesnt make grown men preying on her ok. And when you start talking about her and what she did or didnt do in instances when she was the victim or afterwards you are indirectly or directly taking the onus off the true problems, the shytty adults that created all this.

Thing is, she said she was lying to people about her age and nobody knew how old she was, until she had to travel and needed some paperwork from her mother before she could.

It's not like she was honestly going around as a teenager and telling these dudes. She admitted to lying about her age to be around these people. So I don’t know how predatory that makes those dudes. She said they didn't know her age. And I'm more than sure none of them cared enough to sit and ask her much about herself, back then. So it's not like an R. Kelly thing, where he knew and just didn't care. She said nobody knew because she was on her own and would just lie. If anything, like I've always said, she had really sh*tty parents.

 

[FTBS]

Thing is, she said she was lying to people about her age and nobody knew how old she was, until she had to travel and needed some paperwork from her mother before she could.

It'a not like she was honestly going around as a teenager and telling these dudes. She admitted to lying about her age to be around these people. So I don’t know how predatory that makes those dudes. She said they didn't know her age. And I'm more than sure none of them cared enough to sit and ask her much about herself, back then. So it's not like an R. Kelly thing, where he knew and just didn't care. She said nobody knew because she was on her own and would just lie. If anything, like I've always said, she had really sh*tty parents.

Of course. And I am including them. What did that girl experience that allowed her to go out at 15 doing all that wild shyt?

Thing is, kids lie. Thats why we have IDs and you get carded at bars and you have truancy officers. Way too many underage chicks have been caught up in this lifestyle for nikkas to really be on their due diligence. At best nikkas dont care (unacceptable for a grown ass man) at worst they are targeting.

Now lets be real, once Aaron found out how old she was did he stop fukkin? nikka knew the deal in the infamous Vlad interview and he was beaming with pride while discussing it like the airport shyt didnt happen.