Mannie Fresh and Juvenile on Drink Champs this week

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I wanna hear why Mannie was making hits for a year or 2 after leaving Cash Money, then just completely disappeared, no placements anywhere for 10+ yrs. Never understood it
The industry disappeared breh. Budgets disappeared. Placements too. New age artists have been coming in with their albums done and collaborative producers of their own on deck.

The way music was made through the system and outside of it is 2 different things. Name brand producers from the old industry era often opt to not participate anymore because they have to lower their rates to play the game these days.
 

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based off this clip, i know this interview gone frustrate the shyt outta me :mjlol:

Nore aint following/comprehending what they're saying at all



Nore fukking sucks at podcasting. So does EFN


Yayo was talking about how 50 hated Many Men and he convinced him to keep the track.

Nore: oh we'll get back to that.


5 hours later they never got back to that.
 

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I wanna hear why Mannie was making hits for a year or 2 after leaving Cash Money, then just completely disappeared, no placements anywhere for 10+ yrs. Never understood it

Got too expensive probably. All the new ATL rappers were using somebody local coming into the game
 

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That would explain him being cold and not making hits, but he didn't have any placements even on southern albums from rappers he made a bunch of songs with before. Seems like there's more to the story

It's a combination of things imo...

Money
Lack of motivation
Dated Production
Being blackballed(Bird and Slim)

Fresh changed his style of production 3 times

1st generation Cash Money-UNLV/BG/HBs/Big Tymers

2nd Generation-Cash Money Millionaires

3rd Generation-Big Tymers/Birdman/500 Degreez/Carter 1 Lil Wayne

He was out of gas after the Carter 1...

If Cash Money signs Kanye West instead of fukking Jazze Pha, we might be having a COMPLETELY different discussion
 

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Nore fukking sucks at podcasting. So does EFN


Yayo was talking about how 50 hated Many Men and he convinced him to keep the track.

Nore: oh we'll get back to that.


5 hours later they never got back to that.
man....they made Juve explain Jayz getting on HA 3 damn times.....then played quick time with slime only to have Nore drunk ass stop the game....TO ASK HOW JAYZ GOT ON HA AGAIN!
 

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man....they made Juve explain Jayz getting on HA 3 damn times.....then played quick time with slime only to have Nore drunk ass stop the game....TO ASK HOW JAYZ GOT ON HA AGAIN!

I swear they the WOAT.
Juve really OG status with the Traeger hat :pachaha:

Wood fire grills :wow:
 

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man....they made Juve explain Jayz getting on HA 3 damn times.....then played quick time with slime only to have Nore drunk ass stop the game....TO ASK HOW JAYZ GOT ON HA AGAIN!

Jay-Z's a brand. Breakfast Club, Hot 97 all these platforms do that shyt too. Talk about dude like he's God and so they can
put his name in the headlines for clicks. Smh.

Member CthaGod? Been dikkriding ever since Jigga allegedly got him fired back in the day.

I got love for Jay but hip-hop started and existed before and will after Mr. Beyonce smh
 

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Jay-Z's a brand. Breakfast Club, Hot 97 all these platforms do that shyt too. Talk about dude like he's God and so they can
put his name in the headlines for clicks. Smh.

Member CthaGod? Been dikkriding ever since Jigga allegedly got him fired back in the day.

I got love for Jay but hip-hop started and existed before and will after Mr. Beyonce smh
I'm very aware. I fukk with Jay...he no.2 behind Pac for me...but I'm also a southern rap historian...and it's so frustrating that every single dope rapper out the south that work with Jay have their interviews centered around working with Jay...makes me understand why people be like fukk that nikka....nobody but me and 3 other nikkas give a motherfukk about Jay HA verse...east coast interviewers act like it was the holy testament when they talk to Juve....or they only talk about back that azz up and ha....I swear, it's like talking to Nas and focusing the interview on his Oochie Wally verse....but I get it...we need more prominent southern podcasts and publications for nikkas to get their proper respect.
 
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I'm very aware. I fukk with Jay...he no.2 behind Pac for me...but I'm also a southern rap historian...and it so frustrating that every single dope rapper out the south that work with Jay have their interviews centered around working with Jay...makes me understand why people be like fukk that nikka....nobody but me and 3 other nikkas give a motherfukk about Jay HA verse...east coast interviewers act like it was the holy testament when they talk to Juve....or they only talk about back that azz up and ha....I swear, it's like talking to Nas and focusing the interview on his Oochie Wally verse....but I get it...we need more prominent southern podcasts and publications for nikkas to get their proper respect.

I think B-High is legit, but he don't get them A-List types for whatever reason...

From the business standpoint, I understand drink Champs, but as a huge fan of Cash Money and Southern Music, a nikka like Nore won't do them justice...
 
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