Mayor Pete has the best overall Health Plan

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I wouldn't be mad if we started from Bernie's position and ended with Pete's in negotiations.

Pete's position costs nothing.

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Plus he's still going to insure lots of people
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not one mention of how to prevent premium increases but folks think their fav candidate has a "solution" to a problem they aren't talmbot

Some plans eliminate premiums all together, i.e. Bernie's

Others talk about capping healthcare costs, i.e. Warren.

Others are going to subsidize them, i.e. Pete

You have to care enough to read the plans or information
 
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Some plans eliminate premiums all together, i.e. Bernie's

Others talk about capping healthcare costs, i.e. Warren.

Others are going to subsidize them, i.e. Pete

You have to care enough to read the plans or information
smh. You have to care enough to understand why Bernie's plan will cost so much despite "eliminate premiums all together"
 

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smh. You have to care enough to understand why Bernie's plan will cost so much despite "eliminate premiums all together"

Let me understand what you're saying, please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're saying that tackling the cost of premiums is important and that they are the reason that Bernie and Warren's plans cost so much?
 
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Let me understand what you're saying, please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're saying that tackling the cost of premiums is important and that they are the reason that Bernie and Warren's plans cost so much?
It don't matter if gov or citizen pays an ever increasing premium, consequences will still be felt
 

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It don't matter if gov or citizen pays an ever increasing premium, consequences will still be felt
But those costs are going to be addressed.

Average premiums and out-of-pocket costs would fall under the Biden and Buttigieg plans and would be nearly eliminated under the Sanders and Warren plans.

That's from the link in the OP
 
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But those costs are going to be addressed.

Average premiums and out-of-pocket costs would fall under the Biden and Buttigieg plans and would be nearly eliminated under the Sanders and Warren plans.

That's from the link in the OP
these candidates are using phrases like "increasing marketplace subsidies" OR "public funded," none of these address how to stop insurance for over charging

To "cap cost" don't mean that the insurance companies still don't get paid indirectly via subsidies from gov
 

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these candidates are using phrases like "increasing marketplace subsidies" OR "public funded," none of these address how to stop insurance for over charging

To "cap cost" don't mean that the insurance companies still don't get paid indirectly via subsidies from gov

Well, under a M4A plan like Bernie is proposing there is no insurance company.

Under the other proposals the premiums are negotiated with the largest subscriber base in the country so costs should go down.

It's not going to be free, if that's what you're hoping for. But based on your concerns, Sanders might be your guy.
 
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Well, under a M4A plan like Bernie is proposing there is no insurance company.

Under the other proposals the premiums are negotiated with the largest subscriber base in the country so costs should go down.

It's not going to be free, if that's what you're hoping for. But based on your concerns, Sanders might be your guy.
I'm Bernie, Tulsi, and Andrew...while not fully agreeing with Bernie on his health plan

I use the term insurance but what I'm referring to are the folks' that set the cost for services...to stop ever-increasing premiums is to limit how much a dentist charges for a cleanup, not split the cost or foot the bill
 

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I don't see any plan except M4A preventing all who need health care the most being forced to the public option. Meanwhile, we can negotiate with the private companies but there's nothing really stopping them from raising costs. While they do that all the sick ones on "Medicare" will basically force it to be severely underfunded. Without the healthy subsidizing the sick it won't work. Pete's plan would have been great years ago but we might be past the point of no return on this.
 

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I'm Bernie, Tulsi, and Andrew...while not fully agreeing with Bernie on his health plan

I use the term insurance but what I'm referring to are the folks' that set the cost for services...to stop ever-increasing premiums is to limit how much a dentist charges for a cleanup, not split the cost or foot the bill
So what you're asking for is transparency in pricing and the ability to negotiate. We will get that with the Democratic plans if they're implemented as proposed.
 
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