Medhi Hasan debates 20 white supremacist and anti immigration nazis

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Exactly. All he's really doing is giving them an opportunity to make money via donations and starting platforms.

Trump lost most debates he was in and still won :yeshrug: white supremacists do not care about facts
I don’t think this was for the white supremacists though. Everyone acts like the purpose of this is to convert these people and not expose them, to their true core. While yes, alot of us who are very online know these people exist and how they think but AN OVERWHELMING majority of others don’t. Thats who this video is for imo. Whether or not that was what Jubilee intended is irrelevant to me.
 

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I don’t think this was for the white supremacists though. Everyone acts like the purpose of this is to convert these people and not expose them, to their true core. While yes, alot of us who are very online know these people exist and how they think but AN OVERWHELMING majority of others don’t. Thats who this video is for imo. Whether or not that was what Jubilee intended is irrelevant to me.

It's hard for me to think that these people are much different than your average Trump voter. More outspoken I guess but otherwise that's how most are.

I'm not sure "exposing" them makes much difference when half the country agrees and everyone else knows what time they're on.
 

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It's hard for me to think that these people are much different than your average Trump voter. More outspoken I guess but otherwise that's how most are.

I'm not sure "exposing" them makes much difference when half the country agrees and everyone else knows what time they're on.
I feel you there. I’m still of the optimistic view that it’s not more than half the country but there aren’t many ways to figure that out without exposing them like this imo. I genuinely believe that there are plenty of Americans who don’t like immigrants etc but don’t realize they’re sided with people who want them dead and don’t believe in democracy etc.
 

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I fukk with Mehdi but he be clout chasing like this when he entertains clear racists or zionist clowns for easy Ws in debates.

when they find they can't answer you might actually do some good.



medhi however was a bit argumentative himself on this occasion. he didn't do his homework vis-a-vis possible opponents.

This is like when Marc Lamont Hill will go on clear white supremacist platforms (Gavin McKinnes) to smack them up and down in debates.

And its like what do you accomplish? You win a common sense debate but youre inadvertently giving them credibility and clout by even entertaining their bullshyt in a debate.

that's different :camby: .

one is legitimising the platform / POV. the other is arguing against people.

the 20 vs. platform itself is not involved in the debates nor does it (as far as i know, voice an opinion).

my guess is that the platform itself is investigative humanist.
 

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There's alot of people that dont seem to recognize that mehdi's skill in debate, and understanding of social dynamics that are necessary to dismantle people, actually exposed and rattled these kids. Most of them WERE actually pretty well read by comparison to your average person; despite their views. They were far more educated than your typical on the street Trump voter.

But when faced against someone as aggressive as mehdi, they get rattled and default into say...extreme racisms and "so what's". He got them to reveal what they are.

Now you see alot of leftists pundits, that thought they were...smart. not contending with the idea that mehdi is simply better than they are at this; and instead chalk it up to "crazed debaters jubilee chose; why are we platforming this"

No, thats what happens when maga debates an actual aggressive and good debater like mehdi that plays their optic dominance game.
You're right.
He was able to reveal them...


He can match their speed and interrupting, but add all the necessary facts, court sentences and studies...

It was funny that they were complaining in the comments about interrupting, when talking fast and interrupting are their favourite tool...
They would have done that to someone else, without revealing themselves so much...
 

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Exactly. All he's really doing is giving them an opportunity to make money via donations and starting platforms.

Trump lost most debates he was in and still won :yeshrug: white supremacists do not care about facts
Ppl keep arguing ahai st this

Idk why

Its part of the reason we are where we are noe
 
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