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Meltz: ADR headed to ROH
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ROH is a dead vehicle these days.
ChemicalBk
Super !
No sarcasm TNA main event scene is type weakread that in ridiculous sarcasm lmao
Ec3,Hardy,MVP,Roode,Angle,Aries,Joe,Lashley isnt enough in the main event scene Del Patron could of spiced it up a bit and I dont see anyone else on that roster capable of stepping up
him in ROH is a waste they are not growing and dont do much crossover stuff I dont want to see him wrestle vanilla migits and AJ Styles repeatedly
Vinny Lupton
Superstar
Why doesn't he stay in Mexico? Or will this be in addition to his Mexico work?
He's still going to work for AAA/Lucha Underground. He's only working 4 dates for ROH. This is essentially another indy booking for him.
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
He's fantastic everywhere but ROH. But...that's the case for pretty much everyone. ROH is this ridiculously sterile corporate environment now that lacks all of the soul and character of the rest of the indies.
Honestly though, I liked Cole & Elgin from what I saw in PWG but their stuff in ROH has been blandCole has charisma but he's missing that something in the ring. Do you recommend any non-PWG matches?
It's ridiculous how ROH had a years worth of Cole's PWG reign to draw from before he even got the belt in ROH, but instead cooked up the most bland version of his character possible. I hate that his ROH contract is pulling him from PWG, but Kyle O'Reilly is gone too which means he can't ruin anything else for me
Cole's in-ring stuff is beyond entertaining..if he's booked right and ROH absolutely doesn't do that...with anyone. Everyone in the company has to go out there and do super workratey stuff despite the fact that the guys the indies now that isn't the wave for them. That generation is gone. This generation can do brawls like no other. Cole/Briscoe at Final Battle was really good because it was Cole finally allowed to work his style.
And other indies treat Elgin like a midcarder for a reason
From the latest Observer:
"Alberto El Patron will debut on 1/3 in Nashville at the TV tapings, facing Christopher Daniels. As noted last week, he has signed for multiple dates. It’s interesting that ROH is using him because unless he’s doing them a favor, he doesn’t come cheap and ROH has a low budget. I’m not sure he’s going to be a big needle mover either, because he was never the star the Hardys were nor does his style fit in with the product like A.J. Styles, even though he does seem like a hot commodity because of the nature of his firing and how he fought back against the WWE and won. Other dates he’s signed for are 1/30 in Dearborn, MI (against ACH), 1/31 in Dayton and the 3/1 PPV show from Las Vegas. I believe A.J. Styles will also be on the 3/1 show. The connection is likely with Court Bauer, who works closely with Rodriguez on business and media and also works with ROH. Regarding Alberto and MMA, he just got a big money offer from Bellator and that’s not his only big money offer, so it’s really up to him if, at 37 (he’d be 38 by the time he fought), he wants to go back and do MMA. He can make far more in MMA right now than wrestling, but he can do really well in wrestling alone, between AAA, Lucha Underground, ROH and indies, or TNA as well. He was 9-5 as an MMA heavyweight from 2001 to 2010, but he never beat anyone of note and lost to people who weren’t of note, with his most famous fight being, while under a mask as Dos Caras Jr., getting a fast head kick knockout loss to Mirko Cro Cop in his heyday on a Pride show. He lost to guys Bobby Lashley would destroy if you’re looking for a comparison."
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"TNA made another play for Alberto El Patron of late. It was said to be a very serious money offer (the number we heard was $400,000 for a one-year deal, and considering we don’t even know if TNA will be running house shows or how many, and they tape in bunches, and who knows about PPV going forward, so that could be a couple of dates a month) but the impression I have is they will either have to up the money or drop asking for exclusivity (in regard to things like PPV and the like). Plus El Rey has offered a substantial guaranteed money deal and the expectation is he’s going there. John Gaburick worked closely with him in WWE so that’s why they are hot to get him. TNA is pushing the idea that he’ll have more U.S. TV exposure than with anyone else, which may or may not be the case in comparison with ROH. It’s not even a lock (but it is probable) that TNA will beat the Unimas numbers for Lucha Underground, but for the demo he’d be strongest with, Lucha Underground on Unimas would hit it far harder. The reason why every wrestling promotion wants him and MMA groups want him as well is that everyone is looking for a Latin superstar. The feeling is that Latinos carry boxing, and they should be stronger in MMA, but aside from Cain Velasquez, nobody has really mobilized them as a fan base and even Velasquez, because he doesn’t work hard at promoting himself, hasn’t pulled big numbers out of that demo past his fight with Brock Lesnar and his first fight with Junior Dos Santos that he lost. TNA has constantly looked to make a Latin star and Bellator and other groups are looking at things the same way."
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"TNA made another play for Alberto El Patron of late. It was said to be a very serious money offer (the number we heard was $400,000 for a one-year deal, and considering we don’t even know if TNA will be running house shows or how many, and they tape in bunches, and who knows about PPV going forward, so that could be a couple of dates a month) but the impression I have is they will either have to up the money or drop asking for exclusivity (in regard to things like PPV and the like). Plus El Rey has offered a substantial guaranteed money deal and the expectation is he’s going there. John Gaburick worked closely with him in WWE so that’s why they are hot to get him. TNA is pushing the idea that he’ll have more U.S. TV exposure than with anyone else, which may or may not be the case in comparison with ROH. It’s not even a lock (but it is probable) that TNA will beat the Unimas numbers for Lucha Underground, but for the demo he’d be strongest with, Lucha Underground on Unimas would hit it far harder. The reason why every wrestling promotion wants him and MMA groups want him as well is that everyone is looking for a Latin superstar. The feeling is that Latinos carry boxing, and they should be stronger in MMA, but aside from Cain Velasquez, nobody has really mobilized them as a fan base and even Velasquez, because he doesn’t work hard at promoting himself, hasn’t pulled big numbers out of that demo past his fight with Brock Lesnar and his first fight with Junior Dos Santos that he lost. TNA has constantly looked to make a Latin star and Bellator and other groups are looking at things the same way."