Memory of Old School Artists Vanishing

[Westbama Heartthrob]

The irony of you saying "quality" when a lot of that old school hip hop music was evil. Especially towards little kids. Biggie talking about his homie kidnapping kids, graping them and then throwing them off a bridge. 2Pac threatening to kill kids with a 44 magnum. Pun talking about smacking the baby teeth out of your sons mouth. Cam telling Nas he'll R Kelly his daughter and piss in her face. And can't we forget the Live Squad video for "Murderahh" where they are torturing a Black Man and then they take his baby out of the crib and throw it out of the window in front of him.

Yeah, the parents sure neglected their children by not exposing them to all of this lyrically evil stuff happening to little children by the legends.

You cherrypicking

For every pac there was a common, for every biggie there was a guru and jazzmatazz, and for every live squad there was a digable planets

Plenty of rap suitable for whatever age or demographic. And you of all people should know better but you seem to be in contrarian mode

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Contrarians are gonna act like it's just a generational thing i.e. "our parents said the same about our music" but it's a clear decline in quality and the sales reflect it. Kpop got no traction stateside until american music started slipping.

Blame it on lack of funding for band, choir, and other music programs in schools

I just don't believe talent just up and went extinct. Not enough investment being put into these kids to bring out the best in em. Now we got kids with enough interest to do music, but not enough to appreciate the finer things. Now we got an up incoming generation of listeners and artists who only know mediocrity. To the point where music is seen mainly as either a come up to fame or means to an end. A scheme instead of an artform

And fukked up thing about it, we got real artists releasing dope shyt all the time. But it's an uphill battle to get their due in an age where music is more accessible than ever, which has turned it into a commodity. If it don't come with the next meme or tiktok sound, your music ain't getting you out your bedroom closet

 

[Plankton]

You cherrypicking

For every pac there was a common, for every biggie there was a guru and jazzmatazz, and for every live squad there was a digable planets

Plenty of rap suitable for whatever age or demographic. And you of all people should know better but you seem to be in contrarian mode

LOL. You really wanna have this convo? My son is constantly pointing out the gay lyrics said by Biggie, Dr Dre and Snoop. Constantly bringing up how my generation cant talk about Uzi and Playboi Carti wearing nail polish when Snoop had his nails did first and how MJ and Prince were super feminim first and how Biz Markie and Eminem were wearing dresses before Young Thug.

I was a parent who pointed my son in the direction the person I quoted said parents failed to do and all that did was have my son point out all the bullshyt my generations rappers did first before his generation did it. So when I pointed out how 90's rappers were rapping about violating and killing kids it stands out that there aren't popular rappers in this new generation doing that. FACTS.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

LOL. You really wanna have this convo? My son is constantly pointing out the gay lyrics said by Biggie, Dr Dre and Snoop. Constantly bringing up how my generation cant talk about Uzi and Playboi Carti wearing nail polish when Snoop had his nails did first and how MJ and Prince were super feminim first and how Biz Markie and Eminem were wearing dresses before Young Thug.

I was a parent who pointed my son in the direction the person I quoted said parents failed to do and all that did was have my son point out all the bullshyt my generations rappers did first before his generation did it. So when I pointed out how 90's rappers were rapping about violating and killing kids it stands out that there aren't popular rappers in this new generation doing that. FACTS.

I mean, I agree with you that some of these old nikkas is hypocritical

My stance is just that you can easily find rappers who didn't do those things back then. Hell, you can find em now with current rappers

Cherrypicking in any era shouldn't be done when Hip Hop is extremely diverse. You can find pretty much whatever suits your taste, so it don't make sense for anybody to complain imo

Also why tryna to create gotchas don't really work. It's plenty of folks who don't rock with uzi now that didn't rock with Snoop back then. Not like nobody was complaining when old rappers were on bullshyt. "We're not against rap, we're not against rappers...."

Needless to say, you slipping cause you didn't put ya seed onto Blowout Comb

Otherwise, you wouldn't have been roasted by ya son

 

[Plankton]

I mean, I agree with you that some of these old nikkas is hypocritical

My stance is just that you can easily find rappers who didn't do those things back then. Hell, you can find em now with current rappers

Cherrypicking in any era shouldn't be done when Hip Hop is extremely diverse. You can find pretty much whatever suits your taste, so it don't make sense for anybody to complain imo

Also why tryna to create gotchas don't really work. It's plenty of folks who don't rock with uzi now that didn't rock with Snoop back then. Not like nobody was complaining when old rappers were on bullshyt. "We're not against rap, we're not against rappers...."

Needless to say, you slipping cause you didn't put ya seed onto Blowout Comb

Otherwise, you wouldn't have been roasted by ya son

LOL. You don't know what you are talking about. You specified one of the albums that my son actually fux with. He loves Blowout Comb. But I didnt put him on to that, he found that on his own. ( He thinks Outkast is wack and doesn't get the Bone Thugs hype....And I say all of that to confirm that parents can put their kids on to the stuff they were raised on....that doesn't mean the kids are going to gravitate to it like the parents did.)



And I wasn't complaining about anything. When I quoted ol boy in post #11 when he said "parents neglected their duties and failed to instill a sense of what's quality" that was me pointing out that there was a lot of evil in 90's Hip Hop and the evil stuff was the best. And you trying to sugarcoat that fact by bringing up Jazzmatazz and Common as if the evil music wasn't the "quality" stuff post #11 was talking about. Cuban Linx sniffing coke on songs. 36 Chambers where Raekwon shoots an opps mother in the head. 1st WestsideConnection album with WC talking about putting a cucumber in Q Tips ass. Em killing his BM in front of his daughter. Bone Thugs messing with the Ouiji board on E1999, Mobb Deeps Hell On Earth shooting opps out of project windows. DMX on his 1st album talking about how if you got a daughter over 15 he's gonna grape her. Tragedy talking about sending video footage of your girl getting graped on CNNs War Report. This isn't cherry picking. This is me acknowledging the best albums from the top 90's rappers that post #11 said the previous generation failed to enlighten their children about.

 

[Turtle]

 

[cyndaquil]

This shouldn't bother anyone. It's called getting older. My dad liked the Flintstones and Jetsons. But he wasnt going around getting upset when I said I didnt like them like that and would rather watch Pokémon. Yall trippin