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Messi and C. Ronaldo need to win a World Cup to be legends: True/False
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This is football, dogg. We don't resort to these simplistic First Take arguments 'round here.
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I only came across this that's why
The former Brazil icon insists the Argentina star does not need to win the tournament to become one of the game's greats
Brazil legend Ronaldo has dismissed the notion that Argentina captain Lionel Messi needs to win the World Cup to be considered a football legend.
The four-time Ballon d’Or winner has won every honour with his club side Barcelona in Spain and is widely regarded as one of the greatest players of all time at the age of 26.
But despite his phenomenal success with the La Liga giants, some critics claim that until Messi replicates his club success on the international stage with Argentina, he cannot claim his place among the real greats of the game.
However, Ronaldo has dismissed that suggestion, instead insisting that Messi has already done enough to be labelled a football god.
“He can win that [the World Cup]. He has not retired yet, has he? And he is only 26,” the three-time World Player of the Year told The Times of India.
“Moreover, in the history of football, there are players who did not win the World Cup but are considered as great as any other footballer.
“If you win the World Cup, it gives your status a boost. However, if you cannot, you can still be among the all-time best.
“I saw him [Messi] in Barcelona in his early years there and spoke about him with Ronaldinho. Ronaldinho was full of praise for the boy and when we saw him, we knew why Ronaldinho was so appreciative."
Ronaldo added: “Messi is really a different class. To win four consecutive Ballon d'Ors is a great achievement.”
The Brazil icon also spoke about his namesake, Real Madrid winger Cristiano Ronaldo, and backed the 29-year-old star to fire Portugal to World Cup success this summer.
“He had given us, the Madridistas, what we were looking for, La Decima. I was so happy for him when he won the Ballon d'or this year. He deserved it,” Ronaldo said.
“For Portugal, he has been playing well. He can set the grass on fire with his speed and powerful strikes. His headers are powerful too and he always out-jumps the defenders.
“Portugal are in a tough group but Cristiano should help his team qualify for the knockout and then, it can be anybody's game.”
http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/wo...eady-a-legend-without-world-cup?ICID=AR_PN_16
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That's one thing I love about that shyt...
None of that "Messi has to win X amount of world cups to be on Pele's level" BS drummed up by media and fans
soccer/futbol appreciates its GOATS
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Dapped this but then I was like
Cause Im pretty sure this convo comes up all the time. And besides at least in Messi's case, his team has as good a shot as anyone. If Messi can play his best, at this stage, Argentina should win. Dude averages > a goal a game in La Liga.
Maradonna did it with much less help, and that shyt wasnt hosted in South America.
And this why I'm watching more futbol these days and trying to get better knowledge of the game and landscape....fans are much more knowledgeable and less likely to resort to trolling to get there point across....
Dapped this but then I was like
Cause Im pretty sure this convo comes up all the time. And besides at least in Messi's case, his team has as good a shot as anyone. If Messi can play his best, at this stage, Argentina should win. Dude averages > a goal a game in La Liga.
Maradonna did it with much less help, and that shyt wasnt hosted in South America.
Not really Messi's fault. Argentina's defense has always been shyt and they tend to crack under the pressure in big moments.
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Messi has been part of that equation in the past
Hell no
Enough of ya'll don't watch club soccer to even take ya'lls opinion seriously.
The WC is VASTLY overrated when we talk about talent use and effort.
Its dope because of the whole spectacle, but hardly a means of establishing "greatness:
Enough of ya'll don't watch club soccer to even take ya'lls opinion seriously.
The WC is VASTLY overrated when we talk about talent use and effort.
Its dope because of the whole spectacle, but hardly a means of establishing "greatness:
I'm pretty sure 90% of the comments i've read in the main WC thread show people who don't appreciate the efforts of midfielders and defenders or who even understand how hard the shyt they do is with 1-2 touches