Middle aged LeFather of 3 getting ready for year 23

[Osmosis]

You're ignorance is showing. There's nothing inherently wrong with ignorance, it just means you don't know. It's when one is presented with new information and refuses to accept it - that ignorance veers into stupidity.

On Youtube, BJ Armstrong stated that Jordan used to push them so hard during practices for those three championship runs, that the regular season games were easier. Combine that with the infrastructure still being in place, after Jordan left, from the coaching staff (Grade A pedigree with Tex Winters, Johnny Bach, and Dave Clemons) Two All Stars and All Team Defense players with Pippen and Grant, a phenomenal rookie who hit 6 game winning shots his rookie year with the Bulls in Toni Kukoc; and Ron Harper a former all star and perennial 20ppg scorer.

There's no way on earth, anyone with a semblance of common sense can say that removing one player will completely collapse a three-peat dynastic team, even if that player is the GOAT, no team can attain a three-peat off the back of that one player. and the reason that Bulls team won a three-peat is because Jordan, unlike Bron, bought into a system from a no-name coach, where it took the ball out of Jordan's, reducing his overall stats but increasing the chances of team success.

Very few people alive have led their teams to a three-peat (only Jordan and Shaq). So, yes, the Bulls went from a three-peat to a 54 win, 2nd round exit.

When Jordan returned for a full season, they achieved another three-peat. 3-Peat > 2nd Round exit - that's the difference between a Bulls team with Jordan and a Bulls team without him.


In 30 years, low-level thinkers like yourself are going to be denigrating today's competition. Not realizing it's all relative and you can only judge the greats by how they separated themselves from their contemporaries.

For a bunch of old heads, you Jordan stans really are fukking retarded.

You just wrote a whole bunch of bullshyt to reinforce my point, the Bulls were a stacked team in an expansion weakened era. That is why they went from a 57 win team to 55 win team after removing their best player. No matter how much you deranged dikkeaters attribute every Bulls player development to Jordan's maniacal work ethic, no matter how much you overrate the competitive landscape of the 1990s, no matter how much you act like Jordan wasn't playing with another top 5 player and the GOAT coach for the entirety of his prime.

I'm glad you mentioned Shaq. Do the 2002 Lakers win as many games as they did the season prior if you replace Shaq with an assortment of role players? They won 56 games in 2001, are they even approaching that many wins if Shaq quit the team a month before the season started? But they had the foundation of a three-peat, right? No, they aren't even sniffing 50 wins because outright removing Shaq without getting comparable value would decimate them. As it would with most teams that aren't utterly stacked relative to their competition.

 

[Shadow King]

See, this is bullshyt right here. Magic, Bird, and Isiah benefited off of expansion more than Jordan. 4 teams entered the NBA during their championship runs as opposed to two teams during Jordans championship runs.

Bron fans stay trying to denigrate his former teammates, prior greats, prior eras, just to prop him up. And then try to prop up his competition as if the 2020 Miami Heat with two injured starters, were a behemoth.

Magic and Bird were done winning rings by the fall of 88 when the expansion era started. It was Jordan who benefitted off the talent of the league needing to catch up to the number of teams. Especially as 4 out the 6 total added in 7 years were in the East.

 

[2legit]

Magic and Bird were done winning rings by the fall of 88 when the expansion era started. It was Jordan who benefitted off the talent of the league needing to catch up to the number of teams. Especially as 4 out the 6 total added in 7 years were in the East.

He talking about the Pistons benefiting from expansion when it was the Pistons who was hurt the most because they lost Rick Mahorn to the expansion draft right after winning the title. MJ benefited from that because his team beat the Expansion weakened Pistons who were old by 1991. That mean MJ's first title needs an expansion asterisk too.

 

[Shadow King]

He talking about the Pistons benefiting from expansion when it was the Pistons who was hurt the most because they lost Rick Mahorn to the expansion draft right after winning the title. MJ benefited from that because his team beat the Expansion weakened Pistons who were old by 1991. That mean MJ's first title needs an expansion asterisk too.

Jordanians and Kobephiles will always omit details when using their tainted forms of "context".

 

[Illin Degenerate]

The 1994 Bulls won 55 games, swept a 47 win Cavs team

cavs were missing brad daugherty, larry nance, and hot rod williams in that series, their 3 best frontcourt players. the 92-93 bulls were 2nd in the nba in net rating, the 93-94 bulls were 11th. 55 wins sounds like a good talking point, but they werent anywhere near as good of a team. even the bulls the next year who were 34-31 without horace grant, jordan comes back for the final 17 games, they only finish with 47 wins, yet their net rating for the year 5th. that 55 win talking point kinda falls flat when you look deeper.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

He talking about the Pistons benefiting from expansion when it was the Pistons who was hurt the most because they lost Rick Mahorn to the expansion draft right after winning the title. MJ benefited from that because his team beat the Expansion weakened Pistons who were old by 1991. That mean MJ's first title needs an expansion asterisk too.

He beat Magic Johnson. I gues the retirement of 97 year old Kareem he deserves an asterik for that hih?

 

[2legit]

He beat Magic Johnson. I gues the retirement of 97 year old Kareem he deserves an asterik for that hih?

He beat Magic when the Lakers got old. He didn't beat the Showtime Lakers. Kareem was not there and both James Worthy and Byron Scott were injured for the series. That's like Steph bragging about beating LeBron in the 2015 finals when Kyrie and Love were injured.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

He beat Magic when the Lakers got old. He didn't beat the Showtime Lakers. Kareem was not there and both James Worthy and Byron Scott were injured for the series. That's like Steph bragging about beating LeBron in the 2015 finals when Kyrie and Love were injured.

LeBron choked that series, Jordan doesn't lose that series. Magic, Biird don't lose that series, but LeBron did.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Bulls won 55 games the year after Jordan quit the first time. 57 wins the year with him.

The Bulls as an organization were orders of magnitude better than anyone else in the league during the 90s expansion era, which Jordan profited from.

Jordan aint winning no 6 chips in one decade in this modern league.

Unless ur willing to say Bill Russell was twice the player of Jordan and Havelick > Jordan

The Bulls as an organization in the 90s were the same middling franchise they’ve always been …but just so happened to luck into drafting the greatest athlete in American professional sports … hell they stumbled upon the greatest dynasty of the modern NBA and couldn’t wait to break it up, they arguably left one or two chips on the table …why did this great fount of institutional and organizational knowledge and greatness suddenly disappear in ‘98?

I 100% think Jordan could win 6 in the NBA of the past 20 years. Imagine MJ hopping around from team to team every couple of years, swapping out new fresh championship caliber assets and talent whenever the window closed on the prior team like Bron ….or let’s say he had too much pride for that…the Steph Warriors have won 4 and been to 6..:why is Jordan winning 6 in this era some wild proposition?

 

[homiedontplaydat]

Go home and spend some quality time with ur wife and daughter. Announce ur retiring after next year so u can get ur flowers and then go away. We tired of u dude

 

[Osmosis]

cavs were missing brad daugherty, larry nance, and hot rod williams in that series, their 3 best frontcourt players. the 92-93 bulls were 2nd in the nba in net rating, the 93-94 bulls were 11th. 55 wins sounds like a good talking point, but they werent anywhere near as good of a team. even the bulls the next year who were 34-31 without horace grant, jordan comes back for the final 17 games, they only finish with 47 wins, yet their net rating for the year 5th. that 55 win talking point kinda falls flat when you look deeper.

The 1994 Bulls were one of the best clutch teams in the league which is why they outperformed their net-rating. They had a mediocre offense as one would expect when you lose your number one option right before the season but they won games off the strength of their defense.

The 1995 Bulls had a top 5 net-rating in games played without Jordan. So a team with no Grant and no Jordan led by Pippen, Kukoc, and Armstrong had a top 5 net rating but the Bulls weren't a stacked team in a shytty era?