Most influential people in the Black community?

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Back in the day it would be the pastors, educators and activist. Who would be in 2022? Musicians? Social media influencers?
 

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Back in the day it would be the pastors and activist.
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At the end of the day most people are gonna listen to who they want to, unless your ideology can change someone's material conditions it's a waste of time. People always want to say 'back in the day' as if shyt was perfect back then, well what happened? What happened between 1960 and 1989 that made it so that people stopped listening to activists and started listening to celebrities? Disco?:heh:

What's different is the blatant economic exclusion the average Black person faced was so overt that damn near everybody was invested in progress. Now there are so many distractions thats its easier to just live like its not that bad and think things will get better. Don't organize, vote for whoever, then shut up and go home.

The most powerful people in the Black community today are the major business and land owners, no one has a voice anymore.
 

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:comeon:

At the end of the day most people are gonna listen to who they want to, unless your ideology can change someone's material conditions it's a waste of time. People always want to say 'back in the day' as if shyt was perfect back then, well what happened? What happened between 1960 and 1989 that made it so that people stopped listening to activists and started listening to celebrities? Disco?:heh:

What's different is the blatant economic exclusion the average Black person faced was so overt that damn near everybody was invested in progress. Now there are so many distractions thats its easier to just live like its not that bad and think things will get better. Don't organize, vote for whoever, then shut up and go home.

The most powerful people in the Black community today are the major business and land owners, no one has a voice anymore.
Why did you respond to that part of his quote with a smilie and a runoff tangent?

Not sure how old you are, but if your Grand parents are alive, they will confirm that man's comments about the influence that clergymen had over the communities. Church used to be the anchor that tied communities together.

Unless a person dropped from the sky as an adult, most people know this.
 

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Why did you respond to that part of his quote with a smilie and a runoff tangent?

Not sure how old you are, but if your Grand parents are alive, they will confirm that man's comments about the influence that clergymen had over the communities. Church used to be the anchor that tied communities together.

Unless a person dropped from the sky as an adult, most people know this.
It's not a tangent? My point was one of the biggest reasons the church systems were so influential at that time was because they started at a time when it was the only institution where Black people could organize for positive change safely. And obviously it coerced people with religion. His question was flawed so I used it to make a point. And you can't say all that energy used to erect places of worship couldn't have been used better.
 

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:comeon:

At the end of the day most people are gonna listen to who they want to, unless your ideology can change someone's material conditions it's a waste of time. People always want to say 'back in the day' as if shyt was perfect back then, well what happened? What happened between 1960 and 1989 that made it so that people stopped listening to activists and started listening to celebrities? Disco?:heh:

What's different is the blatant economic exclusion the average Black person faced was so overt that damn near everybody was invested in progress. Now there are so many distractions thats its easier to just live like its not that bad and think things will get better. Don't organize, vote for whoever, then shut up and go home.

The most powerful people in the Black community today are the major business and land owners, no one has a voice anymore.
I dont understand where my question is flawed. My observation was pastors and activists were the leaders back in the day. And then asked who are the leaders currently. As far as the why it's thats way, I wasn't trying to speculate. Just simply asking who are they now.
 

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I dont understand where my question is flawed. My observation was pastors and activists were the leaders back in the day. And then asked who are the leaders currently. As far as the why it's thats way, I wasn't trying to speculate. Just simply asking who are they now.
The logic is flawed, it's like saying why was 'I Love Lucy' the most popular show in the US and why aren't shows like that popular now? While disregarding that there were about 3 channels at the time. It's an unfair, uninformed presupposition not a real question.
 

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OP, my father was and still is my greatest influence. Along with my mother, but my father is that traditional head of household that you think of. Sometimes he’s even a caricature of that image. I think that for the community as whole, our fathers are the influencers. For good or for bad. If they weren’t present, you can see that influence in positive or negative ways. Positive because they don’t want to be like him or negative because they are like them or they didn’t have that direction. My father constantly talks about what he learned from his dad. And I do the same with my son.
 
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