Music Producers! DO NOT Pirate or Borrow FL Studio! How I Almost Got SUED!

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

First of all, r2r > team air, let's be clear on dat.

He made some good points but I disagree with the notion that money is being taken out of anyone's pockets. If I bootleg a album, movie or software it's not because it's an alternative to buying it. It's just because I want it. If I can't get the bootleg it's not like I'm going to throw my hands up and like; 'Well, I guess I have to go and buy it now." No, it just means that I won't have it. lol I'l find an alternative or I just wont have it at all. Either way my broke a$$ aint coming out of pocket so in no way did anyone miss out on any money.

What Image Line should have did was thank him for all of the free promo that homie has given them and made a deal with him. Yeah that's right. lol Why not give him a free copy and have him review it or something like that instead of making threats? Bring him on to be a brand ambassador? It used to be a joke to say you messed with fruity Loops. They need to thank people like 9th Wonder who helped popularize the software back when people used to laugh at it.

The truth of the matter is FL Studio wouldn't be a factor if it wasn't for warez. That's the God's honest truth. The producer's put FL Studio on the map, not Image Line and the majority of them got it by pirated means. Honestly, Image Line show thank the online Hip Hop community and at this point consider becoming Open Source.

o·pen-source
adjectiveCOMPUTING
denoting software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified.

In closing., Imagine Line legal team, Imagine Line mafia, Image Line... whatever, BOW DOWN AND PAY HOMAGE GOT DAMMIT!

 

[Tom Foolery]

The truth of the matter is FL Studio wouldn't be a factor if it wasn't for warez. That's the God's honest truth. The producer's put FL Studio on the map, not Image Line and the majority of them got it by pirated means. Honestly, Image Line show thank the online Hip Hop community and at this point consider becoming Open Source.

100% truth. Their whole base was built off of pirating.

Money must be getting tight for them. There's so much stiff competition now.

 

[50CentStan]

just blur the top right spot where it show your name

 

[Apollo Creed]

100% truth. Their whole base was built off of pirating.

Money must be getting tight for them. There's so much stiff competition now.

what are people using now besides FL? when I was in HS and Middle School cats were making mixtapes just from the free demo version

 

[Tom Foolery]

what are people using now besides FL? when I was in HS and Middle School cats were making mixtapes just from the free demo version

Ableton, Studio 1, Logic, Maschine, Akai MPC. People who use these software are usually paying customers too.

The market is tough. We have seen Protools lose market share, Sonar go belly up and Reason get bought out. FL doesn't have an official mac version yet either.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Ableton, Studio 1, Logic, Maschine, Akai MPC. People who use these software are usually paying customers too.

The market is tough. We have seen Protools lose market share, Sonar go belly up and Reason get bought out. FL doesn't have an official mac version yet either.

Really?

 

[Tom Foolery]

Really?

Yeah. ImageLine is leaving a lot of money on the table.

 

[Dawunonli]

100% truth. Their whole base was built off of pirating.

Money must be getting tight for them. There's so much stiff competition now.

Their base may be built off pirating but if it wasn't for their program and functionality, alot of music wouldn't be created in the last 10-15 years without them because you got producers with no musical training or skills now becoming super producers without an mpc, or traditional music training because of the simple setup of FL.

I think FL and its producers is a mutual relationship that benefits both but as a company, Image Line still gotta make its money so I'm not mad at them cracking down, if they don't, they may not be able to keep hiring those engineers to design updates and etc, similar for the vsts

 

[producingfire]

Once many start pirating they feel entitled to the programs, vsts, libraries etc. I don't care how big of a company it is, you may not be affecting the CEO of the company but you could be affecting those that work in the sales department. The problem is people think a company is some big figure that won't topple. but the people underneath can and often do. Everybody wants, and needs to eat.

 

[Doomsday]

I purchased mine after years. Felt great.

 

[Will Ross]

Fl studio is only popular because it was easy to get for free.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Once many start pirating they feel entitled to the programs, vsts, libraries etc. I don't care how big of a company it is, you may not be affecting the CEO of the company but you could be affecting those that work in the sales department. The problem is people think a company is some big figure that won't topple. but the people underneath can and often do. Everybody wants, and needs to eat.

That's based on a false narrative that pirating is always done as an alternative to buying.
Just as in the example I posted, that isn't always the case. That wasn't something that I just created as a cool argument either, it's the truth.

Also, it's not that we feel entitled. If you've been coming online since the late 90's to early 2000's then this is more of a way of life. It's cool that people can monetize everything online but there was a time when it wasn't like that and not everyone shares the view that any and everything online should have a price tag attached to it. 'Illegal downloading' comes with the territory.

I guarantee you that if FL Studios was open source that there would be a Mac version by now. IL needs to step up their business and evolve. FL has a cult following that is deeply entrenched in the internet and warez community. Embrace it.

Furthermore there are enough free resources out there made by people who do things for the greater good of the community rather than money that someone can get for free. Everything you named is free and in a comparable quality. I wouldn't say anyone feels entitled.

 

[FaTaL]

 

[producingfire]

That's based on a false narrative that pirating is always done as an alternative to buying.
Just as in the example I posted, that isn't always the case. That wasn't something that I just created as a cool argument either, it's the truth.

Also, it's not that we feel entitled. If you've been coming online since the late 90's to early 2000's then this is more of a way of life. It's cool that people can monetize everything online but there was a time when it wasn't like that and not everyone shares the view that any and everything online should have a price tag attached to it. 'Illegal downloading' comes with the territory.

I guarantee you that if FL Studios was open source that there would be a Mac version by now. IL needs to step up their business and evolve. FL has a cult following that is deeply entrenched in the internet and warez community. Embrace it.

Furthermore there are enough free resources out there made by people who do things for the greater good of the community rather than money that someone can get for free. Everything you named is free and in a comparable quality. I wouldn't say anyone feels entitled.

When it's easier to steal, people do it. I wouldn't call it a false narrative. Just because we don't see image-line suffering doesn't mean that the people at the bottom that work for them aren't. when companies don't make the quota they start cutting budget and laying people off. Although I do feel that that pirating is more about Ease of use. This is like when us producers work on beats and we want to sell them but the artists says "No, I want your beats and you should give them too me for free." No, you can't have my music for free. I went to school invested over 40k in my studies got my Bachelors degree in Commercial Music. You will pay me for my music. "No you will give me the beats and I will give you free promo. No bro my business doesn't function that way. But I can understand that some people will always see it from their point of view.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

When it's easier to steal, people do it. I wouldn't call it a false narrative. Just because we don't see image-line suffering doesn't mean that the people at the bottom that work for them aren't. when companies don't make the quota they start cutting budget and laying people off. Although I do feel that that pirating is more about Ease of use. This is like when us producers work on beats and we want to sell them but the artists says "No, I want your beats and you should give them too me for free." No, you can't have my music for free. I went to school invested over 40k in my studies got my Bachelors degree in Commercial Music. You will pay me for my music. "No you will give me the beats and I will give you free promo. No bro my business doesn't function that way. But I can understand that some people will always see it from their point of view.

Again, the false narrative is that someone pirates as an alternative to buying. That is a lie flat out. I am telling you from my own experience that it's not true. Pirating is more of a cultural thing moreso than a monetary thing. The company may be suffering but that doesn't mean it's because of prating. You could never know;

1) How many people are pirating.
2) Know how many of those people chose to pirated as an alternative to buying it.
IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE!